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[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago

You know the doom cult is having an effect when it starts popping up in previously unlikely places. Last month the socialist magazine Jacobin had an extremely long cover feature on AI doom, which it bought into completely. The author is an effective altruist who interviewed and took seriously people like Katja Grace, Dan Hendrycks and Eliezer Yudkosky.

I used to be more sanguine about people's ability to see through this bullshit, but eschatological nonsense seems to tickle something fundamentally flawed in the human psyche. This LessWrong post is a perfect example.

[-] jonhendry@iosdev.space 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

@TinyTimmyTokyo @dgerard

The author previously wrote "The Socialist Case for Longtermism” in Jacobin, worked as a Python dev and data analytics person, and worked for McKinsey.

[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

after what I’ve heard my local circles say about jacobin (and unfortunately I don’t remember many details — I should see if anybody’s got an article I can share) I’m no longer shocked when I find out they’re platforming and redwashing shitty capitalist mouthpieces

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 17 points 7 months ago

i have long considered Jacobin the Christian rock of socialism

[-] self@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago

forget the article, this does the job in so many fewer words

[-] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

I like some people who have written for Jacobin, sometimes I even enjoy an article here and there, but the magazine as a whole remains utterly unbeaten in the “will walk the length of Manhattan in a “GIANT RUBE” sandwich board for clicks” stakes

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

this reminds me of a plankton organization or something called "blockchain socialism", where the only thing that they have taken from socialism was aesthetics and probably they also thought that gays are fine people, but nothing beyond that. they would say "Monero can be used for anti-state purposes, therefore it's good for leftism" and shit like that

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago

that's one weird fucking guy, thankfully

[-] self@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago

I think I’ve met that guy! they’re the weirdest person I’ve ever seen get bounced from a leftist group under suspicion of being a fed (the weird crypto shit was the straw that broke the camel’s back)

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 7 months ago

the famously leftist pastime, speculation/gambling on nonproductive assets

[-] self@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

it’s kind of amazing how many financial scams try to appropriate leftist language and motivations to lure in marks, while the actual scheme is one of the most unrepentantly greedy and wasteful things you can do without going to prison (and some of them cross even that line)

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 7 months ago

Wasn't that piece linked here before? Lemmy's search is shit unfortunately.

[-] self@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

I’m not pulling it up either, but I remember sneering at it. weird

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

I don't recall

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