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Last election I got to vote for "grab 'em by the pussy" or "black kids are just as good as rich kids" (or something similar. I can't remember the quote exactly and I don't have time to look it up).
This election I get to vote for genocide or genocide. I can't wait.
Edit: I'll take Biden over Trump any day. Trump terrifies me. I'm terrified of how many Americans are going to die if he wins. But I hate that these are our options.
One of these people was trying to do some good and made a verbal fumble probably caused by years of conditioning that got him where he is today and yes, old people say stuff like this by accident. He probably does have racist thoughts that he knows are bullshit but were put there by the shit job older generations have done in building society.
The other guy is a raging psycho who echoes Hitler phrases in his speeches.
Maybe vote to stop genocide of people in the country in which you live over a genocide that would happen whether or not Biden was in office because Trump would support it too.
Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.
Show me 1000’s of queer people being starved, left without power, medical help, water.
The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?
But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.
Idgaf who you vote for.
Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.
I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.
Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.
You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.
Because you don't care about queer people.
Because you don't care about queer people.
I'm sure you think that because you don't care about queer people.
After the first 20 times you use that excuse it stops working.
It's not an excuse, it's a fact.
You think a moral victory that will in no way stop any genocides is more important than stopping a potential genocide that is just as possible as what happened in Germany in 1933.
You do know what happened in Germany in 1933, right?
For example, in May, this happened: https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
And by 1939- before the Holocaust, before war even broke out, there were tens of thousands fewer gay men alive in Germany than there had been in 1932.
Did you even know about any of that that? Probably not since you don't give a shit about queer people.
But in 1932, you would have told me that's okay because even if Hitler does get in, queer people and the people that love them shouldn't worry about any potential genocide, and besides, Paul von Hindenburg did nothing about Stalin's genocide in the Ukraine and maintained friendly relations with Stalin, so if you vote for Hindenburg, you vote for genocide.
And yes, I am comparing the guy who kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bedside and quotes Mein Kampf to Hitler.
You forgot pink triangles.
That's your only response to everything I wrote, huh?
Well that certainly proves that you don't give a shit about queer people. Even if you call that obvious fact an excuse.
By the way, "excuse" is an interesting word to use. It implies that it is, indeed, true that you don't give a shit about queer people, but I'm only bringing that up to cover for something else.
Wonder why you would use that word?
Is it because you don't give a shit about queer people?
My friend, I use the word excuse in relation to you.
It implies that I don’t believe that you actually care this much and are using it to help you excuse your poor behavior( supporting candidates who are actively supporting genocidal actions against children) by saying “Look how much I care about this, just ignore every other flaw in my argument because of this big gay rights flag I am flying.”
I can’t believe I have to say this AGAIN!!!
Fuck The stupid fucking Cheeto in chief. He supports bad policies.
Fuck unlimited support for Israel Biden. He assists in others committing genocidal actions.
They both have flaws, they both don’t give a shit about brown people( Trump obviously, but “You ain’t black” Biden as well)
They both say they support genocidal actions.
Biden might be better, but he isn’t good enough.
We deserve better and every single time you VBNMW you drive us further away from a future in which your daughter does not have to worry.
You are driving them farther and farther and farther right every time you support them regardless of what they do.
Why do they give a fuck what you think, they can just take it a little later with way less fight, one step at a time.
Let them know that if they don’t get on board they won’t get power.
Lie. Already showed you this was a lie. Repeating a lie doesn't make it less of a lie.
Lie and gaslight. I've been talking about my daughter and other queer people this entire time.
Oh, no need to worry then. I'm sure he won't actually do anything about people "poisoning the blood" of America just because he quotes Hitler.
Another lie. I don't want Biden or Trump to be president, something I have said many times. However, only one of those two promises to continue the ongoing genocide of queer people caused by Republicans that could kill my daughter, who, since this isn't clear to you yet, is the one I care about, not myself.
Repeating this twice doesn't make it true.
Feel free to find a single comment I have made where I have said I want anyone to die. Go search my comment history. I'll wait.
Unless, of course, that was also a lie.
No, but thank you for clarifying that you're a 1%er who thinks about things like vacation homes. The word 'vacation home' doesn't even enter my thoughts because I'm not wealthy.
No wonder it doesn't matter to you who is president. You have privilege (and almost certainly white privilege) either way.
If you go back and look at our previous conversations you will see that this is their arguing style.
Tons of accusations about how I don’t care about gay people and that I want them to suffer and die.
Not because I ever once said go trump, I said the opposite many many times, but because I am against Biden because of his response to Israel
I just flipped the script.
But go off on me if you want random internet stranger. :)
Wow, I'm sure running the long con.
I've been planning for you to talk to me about this for at least three months!
https://ttrpg.network/comment/3508386
Oh no sorry, five months.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/3933721
Oh no wait, six months!
https://lemmy.world/comment/2415063
Wait a second... six months ago? That was August. And Israel started this current genocide in October.
HOLY FUCK, I INVENTED A QUEER DAUGHTER TO EXCUSE A GENOCIDE THAT HADN'T HAPPENED YET!
You better leave me alone or I will use my pyschic mental powers to melt your brain.
Friend your mental anything couldn’t melt an ice cube in July
The whole phrase 'bypassing Congress' is propaganda. It's literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he's doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.
It is legal, it is backhanded, and to add onto it. I believe he ran it by Congress later on, and they okayed it.
That doesn’t change the fact that he did it, and bypassed congressional oversight.
We can’t be OK with someone else being what we don’t want them to be this because they’re on our side.
If you don’t call out your own side, just as much as you call anyone else’s, then it just doesn’t matter.
Why are we all calling out Israel so much but aren’t surprised at what Hamas?
Because one is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be fucking done, and the other is people that we thought were going to be better than that being so much worse than we thought they were.
I am not saying it's okay. In fact, in the comment you replied to, I said I don't approve.
We need laws to prevent this sort of action.
I can't believe anyone is so fucking willfully ignorant they can't see how much worse Trump is, but here we are.
If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black jack