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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Warp is the modern, Rust-based terminal with AI built in so you and your team can build great software, faster.

Believe this terminal has been out for a while on other platforms, but just hit the linux market too. Personally been looking forwards to this one for a while, but don't have any prior experience with it - so kinda hoping its as good as it looks.

Link: https://www.warp.dev/blog/warp-for-linux

Edit: Some fair points in comments that terminals shouldn't need cloud login. Personally thought that was an optional thing for people who wanted sync capability.

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[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 33 points 8 months ago

Requiring a login is enough of a misread of the market to kill interest in the product, but looking through their marketing materials, some other stuff jumped out at me.

Like on Mac, Warp for Linux is built fully in Rust and all graphics rendering is done directly on the GPU.

I'm sure it has fallbacks, but I wonder how it will handle environments where the gpu is broken and cpu rendering is being used...

And like on Mac, Warp for Linux supports zsh, bash and fish out of the box. It’s compatible with your existing shell setup.

I mean, yeah? I expect a terminal emulator to be able to support anything that has a stdin, stdout and stderr. The fact that it only lists three shells is concerning to me... Is it trying to do anything fancy with those shells? Will it respect .zshrc and powerline?

The input works more like a normal text editor (including mouse support) and has in-built completions, syntax highlighting, and support for multiple-cursors.

If you actually want those features, that's your shell's job. Not your terminal emulator. And presumably if you need these fancy features you'll just use a normal text editor to make a shell script.

Warp’s integrated AI...

Don't care. Let me turn it off or I'm not using your product.

[The terminal is] an unusually text-heavy and obscure interface.

You're marketing a terminal emulator to Linux users who are going out of their way to change their terminal experience. They likely aren't going to agree with you dismissing the command line as "obscure".

It’s a space where you can save your most important parameterized commands as reusable workflows you can search, share, and run on-demand.

This is just ~/bin and git with vendor lockin. Excellent value-add.

[-] winety@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

I generally agree with you.

The input works more like a normal text editor (including mouse support) and has in-built completions, syntax highlighting, and support for multiple-cursors.

If you actually want those features, that's your shell's job. Not your terminal emulator. And presumably if you need these fancy features you'll just use a normal text editor to make a shell script.

I, personally, would like to see a terminal / shell / whatever with support of standard, modern text input: CTRL + Arrows to skip words, CTRL + SHIFT + Arrows to select whole words, deleting all of selected text etc. I find it baffling that the terminal – the main text input of my system – uses a different way of text input than any other text field.

[-] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

~~Good news, your requirements already work in Konsole.~~

Edit: no

[-] winety@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

I just installed Konsole to try it out. CTRL + Arrows to jump between words works, but this also works in Blackbox and Gnome Terminal. :D

CTRL + SHIFT + Arrows for selecting words, SHIFT + Arrows for selecting characters, nor deleting selected text doesn’t work in Konsole, Blackbox, nor Gnome Terminal.

[-] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My bad, I was wrong. The selection mode in Konsole is indeed very wonky. From the manual:

Selection Mode
Konsole has a selection by keyboard mode. In this mode it is possible to move around the scroll-
back and select text without the mouse.
Enter and leave this mode by using the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+D by default).
Moving the cursor: Arrows, PageUp, PageDown, Home, End.
Moving the cursor vi style: h,j,k,l, to move one character, Ctrl+b,f,u,d for page up/down or half
page up/down.
Select text by using Ctrl or Shift with arrows, or by using V to start selection, moving the cursor
and then V again to end selection. Shift-V selects whole lines, instead of characters.
[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I never realised that for most people terminals don't have intuitive shortcuts. But most terminals use Emacs shortcuts, so if you get used to that it becomes quite intuitive. I know those shortcuts are not universal, but it's not that the shortcuts aren't there, or that they didn't used a standard, it's just that the standard they use didn't become the standard most people are used to.

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