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looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don't run a complaint browser ( cough...firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i'm sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

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[-] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 2 years ago

Stop using Google products I don’t know how else to fucking say it.

Chrome -> Firefox Drive -> sync or Dropbox or any number of options Sheets and productivity tools > libre office or Apache open office YouTube -> Invidious or even better, odysse Google search -> duck duck go, SearXNG, StartPage, etc Gmail -> not a ton of great options. I’d probably recommend proton mail but the FOSS email world is definitely lacking, or gets blocked or goes down, harder to self host etc.

[-] nevernevermore@kbin.social 110 points 2 years ago

helped with formatting:

Chrome -> Firefox

Drive -> sync or Dropbox or any number of options

Sheets and productivity tools > libre office or Apache open office

YouTube -> Invidious or even better, odysse

Google search -> duck duck go, SearXNG, StartPage, etc

Gmail -> not a ton of great options. I’d probably recommend proton mail but the FOSS email world is definitely lacking, or gets blocked or goes down, harder to self host etc.

And I agree for sure. In order I use firefox (and brave sometimes), Proton Drive, Apple Productivity suite (pages, numbers etc), and either startpage or qwant, and proton mail. I do still use use YouTube Premium, but the point is Google doesn't need to have its fingers in every aspect of my digital life.

[-] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

While I get your spirit… Dropbox belongs to google too 😂 they are everywhere! Worse than the plague.

[-] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

For many people, Google controls the entire network stack from their ISP, router, OS, DNS, their browser, all the way down to the platform hosting the content they watch.

Google has captured such a wide part of the Internet that any changes they make will have at least a moderate effect on our lives. Even if we don't use any Google services.

The only thing that can stop them is probably the EU at this point. And I'm sure Google has a plan for that.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago

They can't have a plan for that. They have two options: conform or leave EU.

[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 3 points 2 years ago

lol, just ~~become the government~~ pay the EU.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

EU is widely adopting the policy of fining by a percentage of global revenue which is what hurts even the largest companies, precisely to avoid "just pay the EU".

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[-] nevernevermore@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

i didn't write the quoted list, just helped the OP with his formatting. I use proton drive, not dropbox.

[-] rastilin@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I had no idea Proton Drive was a thing. I'll switch to it, Dropbox is becoming incredibly obnoxious with the advertising popups and notifications.

I'm not sure LibreOffice is a drop-in replacement for Google Docs if you need sharing, collaboration and built-in version control.

[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 7 points 2 years ago

Yes, something like collabora would be a better fit, although I never managed to get an actual instance of the thing running.

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[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

FYI, you need two new lines (hit Enter twice) to actually get a new line in Lemmy.

Two new lines One new line.

[-] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Can also add two spaces at the end of line to force line break

[-] metaltoilet@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Is there a reason behind this?

[-] h34d@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

It's standard markdown afaik. Two new lines creates a new paragraphs, two spaces and one new line creates just a new line.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago

Markdown treats single newline breaks as being a line wrap in a long text flow

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[-] Compactor9679@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Proton mail for sure!! Great great great! Cant stop recomending

[-] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yea i love Protonmail. I haven't had one issue with it.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

What's the replacement for Android?

[-] pineapplelover@infosec.pub 14 points 2 years ago

Linux, but that's not a viable option. I would use degoogled Android OSs. GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, e/os, and LineageOS are some of the popular ones.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

I use SailfishOS and while it's more work, it's viable.

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[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

Android, but the real one (AOSP, etc) that you can get with custom ROMs, not Google® Android©.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago
[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

That¿s why I said "the one you get from the custom ROMs". Well, the ones that fork and maintain on their own anyway.

The other alternative honestly is Linux mobile, once it more properly launches.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Look, it's an unpopular opinion and many will disagree with me, but while Apple does certain things to restrict you from customizing your experience, they're doing far less to destroy the open Internet than Google. So if you need a fully featured OS (which degoogled custom Android ROMs might not be, if you need banking for an example), it's still an alternative for now, until Linux mobile experience gets better.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

On iOS, there's no browser extensions (for e.g. ad blocking), no alternative browsers, and no FOSS apps of any kind. That platform is extremely hostile to the ideals of computing freedom.

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[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Wait. Sync offers file storage? I thought it was just to sync up your Firefox sessions across multiple devices.

Or am I confusing services with similar names?

[-] Odo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I think they're referring to the storage service at sync.com, not Firefox Sync.

[-] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago
[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

How do you like it? Would you prefer it over dropbox, or not really?

[-] arditty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I’ve been migrating to sync from Dropbox after hearing too many reports of Dropbox scanning user content for things they deem objectionable. I like the end to end encryption, but I have found the mobile experience on iOS to be lacking. It seems to have trouble integrating with Files and uploading files directly via the iOS share menu. Annoying but not a dealbreaker.

[-] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I prefer it to drop box, it’s a better service and I believe not owned by Google like drop box it

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Gawd damn, I didn't know Google acquired Dropbox in 2010. Ok. Time to move.

But what makes Sync a better service? A better UI?

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Question, I use Google docs a lot cause I like the sync and it's convenient when I write something like a book on my computer and then can add more on my phone and it syncs. Does Apache open office do that? I would like to switch if all this chrome stuff is bad but I use all of it all the time

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 2 years ago

https://cryptpad.fr is a potential option. You can also host it yourself if you don't want to pay them for extra storage space.

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Oh that looks neat! I'll have to look into it, thanks!

[-] breg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

look into syncthing paired with local-first notes application (obsidian or similar), or simple text editor. work like a charm in my case.

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Alright, thanks, I'll try those out!

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Ok I really like Obsidian! The interface is really clean! I might still need to look for a proper word processor (I guess I could use libreoffice) but I also use geany as a notepad++ substitute and it's really nice too. I still gotta look into setting up syncthing though

[-] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I generally would recommend Libreoffice over AOO but not sure about cloud sync options

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