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Putin tells Poland any aggression against Belarus is attack on Russia (www.reuters.com)

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[-] takeda@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, it is, badly.

BTW: since lemmy (and obviously lemmygrad) was created by communists. Can you explain to me what's so communist about Russia that you and others are so fiercely defending? How are they different from that "imperialistic pig" that is the US? Is it because Russia is fascist now?

Looks to me like you never cared about communist ideology, and it was always about supporting Muscovies and totalitarism.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Nobody said Russia is communist, nor is anybody defending Russia here. People are just explaining to you that the reality is more complex than the propaganda narrative you've guzzled makes it out to be. The only fascists here are the ones who think that people of Ukraine should be used in a proxy war against Russia by the west. So, maybe stop projecting there.

[-] takeda@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Said the guy with a thumbnail with big CCCP on his forehead.

Standard bullshit pretending that you care about people, dismissing that Ukrainians are fighting for their right to exist. After the war crimes committed, after Bucha and many other places, after Russia admitted to kidnapping nearly a million of Ukrainian children (textbook definition of genocide), after ICC charges for war crimes.

But ok, please outline exactly what should be the peace agreement, who gets what (don't skip any details).

And second, please tell me how Russia, will honor that agreement, when it broke every single one going back to 90s, including Budapest Memorandum where it signed that it will respect Ukraine's borders. The one that it broke in 2003, 2014, 2018 and 2022 (when it decided to go after the rest of Ukraine).

[-] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social 1 points 1 year ago

@takeda @yogthos I understand where you're coming from Takeda. But don't expect rationality from Yogi. He says Ukraine is being "used in a proxy war". That's your first hint that he's a propagandist. Anyone who says the US is helping Ukraine to hurt Russia without mentioning that the ONLY reason the US needs to do so is because Russia has needlessly and baselessly attacked Ukraine, is not trying to speak the truth. Unless Yogi here wants to admit Russia's attack was the cause? Yogi?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Believing what you wrote takes a brain as smooth as a bowling ball. RAND literally put out a whole study called extending Russia where it outlines a proxy war in Ukraine. US ambassador to Finland openly called it a proxy war, Lindsey Graham said it's the best money US ever spent on killing Russians. Meanwhile, imagine claiming with a straight face that US is helping Ukraine, what an utter monster one has to be to call this help. You are a deplorable piece of human garbage.

[-] AdamantlyAdam@newsie.social 1 points 1 year ago

@yogthos You missed the point with the grace of a dancing elephant as usual. I didn't say it wasn't a proxy war. I said that acting like Russia isn't reason the war exists at all why you're a propagandist. Can you admit that Russia started this war and is solely responsible for the bullets and bombs that are flying or no? How much of a leash does Daddy Putin keep on you?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I never argued that Russia didn't start this war, what I'm arguing against is the simplistic claim that Russia is solely responsible for creating the conditions for the war. The fact that you can't comprehend that shows utter lack of capacity for critical thought on your part. The funny part is that plenty of people in the west such as Sachs, Mearshaemer, and Chomsky have all explained in detail the role the west played. RAND literally published a study on this. Yet, here we have burger empire propagandists such as your self prancing around claiming Russia is solely responsible for the war. You are a truly deplorable individual.