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Image description: Elon Musk & X @elonmusk ā€¢ 42m Just bought a new PC laptop and it won't let me use it unless I create a Microsoft account, which also means giving their Al access to my computer! This is messed up. There used to be an option to skip signing into or creating a Microsoft account. Are you seeing this too? This is not cool of Microsoft.


(Originally published on mastodon.social: 2024-02-25)

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[-] iterable@sh.itjust.works 61 points 8 months ago

Someone didnā€™t buy the pro or above version.

[-] AbsolutelyNotNick@lemmy.ca 53 points 8 months ago

Even on the Pro edition, on the most recent version it doesnā€™t have an option up front for a local account.

Apparently the workaround, for now at least, is to try signing in with a@a.com and a random password. It then tells you the account is locked due to incorrect sign in attempts, and gives you an option for a local account.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 31 points 8 months ago

If you set it up wothout an internet connection you will not be forced to log in. That workaround has worked for like a decade.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago

About a year ago an update came out where even without an internet connection it wouldnā€™t even let me get past the sign in screen. It just told me to connect to the internet to proceeds or something. Not sure if thatā€™s still a thing or not.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 8 months ago

Last I checked, there was a command prompt method. I think this still works: tomshardware.com/ā€¦/install-windows-11-without-micā€¦

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

I used some command prompt to get around it, so Iā€™m not saying itā€™s impossible. but unless you are decently techy, you will not know to do it.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

The guides I found give you every single detail youā€™d need to know. If you know how to read, you can use the terminal bypass method.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Right, but my mom and dad would not even think that there is a way around it. They wouldnā€™t even know to look.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Sure, but are they ones who care about not having a Microsoft account?

They might even think it is convenient.

If someone is privacy aware enough, theyā€™ll find the solution themselves.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I did it the other day without issue. Went back to fedora when I realized that the middle click could only do either of its functions in windows on my ThinkPad, while it can do both in Linux.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

Confirming, in December I didnā€™t have Wi-Fi drivers and thus couldnā€™t login to install the Wi-Fi drivers.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago

It is but hereā€™s still a workaround. If you open the windows terminal on the login screen, disable the internet connection and run ā€œoobeypassnroā€ you will not be forced to log in.

[-] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I think you are missing a \b. OOBE\ (Out of Box Experience) bypass NRO (eNROllment).

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

Nope, the command I shared is correct.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Microsoft: May we please fuck with you endlessly with these pointless settings?

Me making Trollface.jpg: Sorry bruv itā€™s the year 2024 and I still donā€™t have an internet connection.

Microsoft: Oh ok nevermind then!

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

it worked on windows ten. apparently not so on eleven.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago

True. Thereā€™s still a workaround though. If you open the windows terminal on that screen, disable the internet connection and run ā€œoobeypassnroā€ you will not be forced to log in.

[-] shamrock@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Good luck if it comes with S mode enabled though

[-] iterable@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I would assume it was for work and he would have it connected to a domain. With group policy you can set to use local accounts as default if I remember correctly.

[-] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Its hacky and annoying that its even nessecary but still easier than installing Linux.

[-] otacon239@feddit.de 24 points 8 months ago

When was the last time you installed Linux? Iā€™m done with a fresh install on most popular distros in 30 minutes or less.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Last week, Linux mint (Green ubuntu) still canā€™t get the battery to detect and I dont know why. If I unplug the laptop, it turns off immediately. Battery icon shows up, shows ā€œChargingā€ but stays at 0%

Battery was working in Windows the day prior.

HP laptop from ~2016

[-] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I work with mostly Dell laptops and see this all the time on Win10 so 2 grains of salt, but: Usually reseating the battery does the trick, if not the battery + ram + hd/SSD.

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