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As someone who spends time programming, I of course find myself in conversations with people who aren't as familiar with it. It doesn't happen all the time, but these discussions can lead to people coming up with some pretty wild misconceptions about what programming is and what programmers do.

  • I'm sure many of you have had similar experiences. So, I thought it would be interesting to ask.
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[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 183 points 9 months ago

The notion that creating a half-decent application is quick and easy enough that I would be willing to transform their idea into reality for free.

[-] lung@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure that government software always blows because they think software can be written according to a fixed schedule and budget

It's tempting to think it's like building a house, and if you have the blueprints & wood, it'll just be fast and easy. Everything will go on schedule

But no, in software, the "wood" is always shape shifting, the land you're building on is shape shifting, some dude in Romania is tryna break in, and the blueprints forgot that you also need plumbing and electric lines

[-] astrsk@kbin.social 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, that’s probably true for the most part but by far the reality is that it comes down to lowest bidder 9/10 times. Unrealistic budgets and unrealistic time frames with as cheap labor they can find gets you a large amount of government funded projects throughout all the years.

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

One of the most common problems of government or other big organisation software is that they don't scale, either "not well" or "not at all".

Some guy hacks up a demo that looks nice and seems to do what customer wants, but then it turns out a) that it only allows for (number of open ports on one machine) users at the same time, and b) it only works if everything runs on one machine. Or worse, one core.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago

It's tempting to think it's like building a house, and if you have the blueprints & wood, it'll just be fast and easy. Everything will go on schedule

it never goes according to schedule eve if there is blueprint & wood

[-] ericjmorey@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago

Building a house (or any construction project) is notoriously impossible to be on schedule and on budget too.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 9 months ago

I have a hypothesis that a factor is that government needs to work for everyone.

A private company can be like "we only really support chrome", but even people running ie6 at a tiny resolution need to renew their license.

[-] Lith@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 9 months ago

I believe this is usually covered by the fact that you can do just about anything you need to do over mail. I once ran into a government site that only worked on Edge.

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 52 points 9 months ago

That's absolutely true. What's hard and what's easy in programming is so completely foreign to non-programmers.

Wait, you can guess my password in under a week but you can't figure out how to pack a knapsack?

[-] xilliah@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago

I once had this and ended up paying for the meeting room cuz he was broke.

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

What's worse is them insisting that you build it in Rust and Mongodb only.

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