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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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  • As shoppers await price cuts, retailers like Home Depot say their prices have stabilized and some national consumer brands have paused price increases or announced more modest ones.
  • Yet some industry watchers predict deflation for food at home later this year.
  • Falling prices could bring new challenges for retailers, such as pressure to drive more volume or look for ways to cover fixed costs, such as higher employee wages.
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[-] the_kung_fu_emu@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When's the last time the US saw significant deflation? The 30's? Can't say I blame them for their fear. But they'll see no sympathy from me! We've seen two whole generations born, raised, and passing away in the age of "Number always go up!" business. At least the greatest generation grew up hearing stories of difficult times when it was the unions and collectives that brought them through the darkness. I'm sure current business leadership has no clue how to face this. It's passed out of living memory.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can see the massive deflation happening in China right now as youth unemployment hits 25%.

No thanks. We don't want that over here. Inflation is (and always will be) better than mass unemployment. If you want lower prices, open up our trade with others (IE: Import China's goods since they're suffering from deflation: we can benefit from those lower prices).

[-] the_kung_fu_emu@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

What are the root causes of that deflation though? I would posit the over extension of the Chinese economy in an effort to mimic "Number go up" results without the required fundamentals (see evergrande).

I see "inflation is good" parroted a lot, without much analysis as to why. I understand how continual inflation is a major driver of modern western economies, and those steering those economies require it to support current polocies and the general status quo. However, that being said, I fail to see how that makes it required for things to be "OK".

The price of a raspberry "inflates" in the winter, and "deflates" when in season. The price of commodity consumer electronics is in a continual state of deflation, as new teohnology emerges. At the microcosm prices move in both directions frequently, and are just deemed adjustments. Why then, at the macro scale is a continual increase in pricing considered a sign of economic health?

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

“Inflation is good” from the perspective of Government fiscal policy.

Paying out interest on a AAA-rated loan (e.g. US bonds) is quite cheap, often below the national inflation rate. It allows (in theory) Governments to make large investments - like infrastructure - that work to increase their national GDP, which in turn can lead to increases in their tax-base, making it easier/cheaper to service their loans in the future.

So if the US issues a $1b bond, payable at 10yrs - with inflation at ~3%, the “value” (purchasing power) of that money would have decreased by over 25%.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You're getting supply and demand confused with inflation.

Inflation is a rise in the general price of goods. One item changing price (like a Taylor swift concert ticket) isn't inflation, especially peak pricing.

Explaining it is much more than a commet length, but ill try before my phone dies.

As gdp increase (better efficiency, more good sold, new markets, value add services) more people are employed to do this work. Unemployment falls when this exceeds the growth of a population from either new people entering the workforce or immigration and against retirement and death. Okuns law.

As Unemployment falls, inflation increases. Less people employers are fighting over means perks and wages increase, driving inflation and costs of production. Phillips curve relationship.

Effectively, economic growth results in inflation.

If I had more time, changing the OCR affects components of GDP, changing inflation through these methods. But there is alot that goes into the logic.

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