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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

By that definition, the purpose of a computer is to get hot. It of course does get hot, but a purpose is more than simply a side-effect.

Generating heat is part of how a computer operates. If some standard-model computer isn't producing heat, it probably isn't functioning very well. That said, it also does several other things, things it does with much greater efficiency than its heat generation (which has some mitigation with cooling systems, depending on the machine), so those must also be considered part of its purpose.

What cannot be considered part of its purpose is what it does not do, such as, uh, reproducing, for example.

[-] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

Would you say the purpose of you sleeping at night is "making noise"? Because it's also something that you do whiel sleeping. I would say "no". But if the purpose of a system is what it does, then making noise would also a purpose, right?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Any massive object existing in a medium (i.e. not a vacuum) if it moves at all by virtue of entering space occupied partially by particles of the medium. Does the purpose of sleep include continuing to exist and not halting movement on a molecular level? Sure, I think if I went to sleep and stopped existing, I failed to sleep. If I froze on a molecular level, I would just be dead and therefore also have failed to sleep.

It's interesting how seamlessly you moved to an un-authored system from the technological and political context this was initially about. You're missing the forest for the trees here, in any case. The real point of the statement is that when you aren't talking about something trivial like molecular-level noise, but the massive and systemically enforced prison slavery system in the US (you know, just to pick an example), it is absurd to say that the production and maintenance of such conditions is somehow contrary to the purpose of the US Justice System, or just some sad incident of fate rather than a lifelong cornerstone of the US economic-political system.

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