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just sad that the people protesting are fucking crazy and then make climate change look like a fucking joke. these people are the perfect example of the worst kind of people fighting for your cause and in doing so make the cause look stupid or not as serious. one would almost think these people are funded by big oil companies to make climate change get a bad image or associate it with crazy people.
I like how not the folks who ignore or even facilitate climate catastrophe are the crazy one.
nothing in reality works like that.
Not sure what you are trying to express.
problems never just solve themselves like that. and definitely big ones like the climate.
I'm really curious how you interpret my statement, care to share? I lack to see any connection between your statement and mine.
you said that people who ignore the climate or create climate change should be seen as the crazy people.
Ah, ok I get you now. That was more of a funny observation on the nature of our reality, where the definition of crazy are rather subjective and mostly used to discredit opponents. I think we saying very similar things, just in different ways.
ah ok yes the intention can get lost in only text.
Maybe it's cause those people that have the strong will and drive to protest have been doing it for 20 years and are getting sick of being ignored so they up the ante.
then these people would not really be doing a very good job. upping the ante will only backfire.
And what do you suggest instead if previous tactics clearly are not working?
leave Greta Thunberg at home and just go from there. and then make serious business serious business again.
ok. Lets say Greta Thunberg stays at home. What now? What are we supposed to do?
not talk about Greta Thunberg anymore and act like that never happened. why would you ask me maybe ask some groups who are actually serious about what they do. yes maybe do that.
What are these „serious“ groups and what are they doing, that makes them „serious“ in your opinion?
is that not up to you to figure that out if you want to know. if you need Greta Thunberg for this your not serious.
What are you trying to tell me with your comments?
if you need Greta Thunberg to tell you what serious issues to follow then your doing it wrong. maybe all that can be better spend in creating or looking for these serious groups. maybe some leftists should organise in some way and maybe earn some respect and copy some tactics. just don't look like Spoiled assholes be sympathetic you know the opposite of Greta Thunberg and groups like stop oil
What are „serious groups“ and why are they better? Tell me, I want to learn.
Thats literally everything I do
Why isn’t Greta Thunberg sympathic?
maybe making Greta Thunberg a baby the symbol of a movement is not really helping its credibility. also i love that humble brag you did there very on point.
Why should a couple crazy people EVER imply a cause is dumb or not worth it?
It sounds more like people suck at judging why things are a good idea. On both sides in this case. Being careful of the climate was and is ALWAYS a good idea regardless of how bad an idea any specific protest is. Humans are too stupid to see their own blind spots because they just assume what's there instead of actually looking.
are you really asking why crazy people making headlines and becoming the face of a movent makes people not take that movement seriously? because that is exactly how you kill a movement. seems to me your just playing dumb.
Appealing to the actions of stupid people in no way what so ever justifies their stupidity.
Do I seriously have to explain the, "if all your friends were jumping off a bridge..." thing in the year 2024?! I am literally describing to you how people are reactionary, and you go, "yea but people are reactionary!"
Thanks for failing to understand the point: Reactionary thought is stupid. I am calling that natural reaction stupid, because it is stupid. I don't care if it's natural. So is dying to a gunshot wound, but I'm still going to go to the hospital.
i'm not justifying anything i'm saying if your movement gets associated with crazy people nobody will take it seriously. im not talking about people being reactionary i'm talking about if you want environmental activism taken seriously you better disassociate from the crazy people like differentiate yourself make that very clear your not them or your movement is fucking dead. has nothing to do with what you find stupid. its about not repelling people if you want to get shit done.
I agree optics are extremely important, but my point still stands that humanity is fucking stupid for partaking in such judgement.
stupidity is eternal.