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Lemmy.world update: Downtime today / Cloudflare (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by ruud@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Today, like the past few days, we have had some downtime. Apparently some script kids are enjoying themselves by targeting our server (and others). Sorry for the inconvenience.

Most of these 'attacks' are targeted at the database, but some are more ddos-like and can be mitigated by using a CDN. Some other Lemmy servers are using Cloudflare, so we know that works. Therefore we have chosen Cloudflare as CDN / DDOS protection platform for now. We will look into other options, but we needed something to be implemented asap.

For the other attacks, we are using them to investigate and implement measures like rate limiting etc.

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[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised, we didn't take their whole user base of anything but it's in their interest to keep viable competitors out of the way.

[-] SrElsewhere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every account they lose hits them in the pocketbook. The bigger the fediverse gets, the more adherents, the greater the momentum it will have and the harder it will be to stop.

Nipping it in the bud is the best, easiest, and least expensive place to nip it.

The downvotes suggest their operatives are reading the comments.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Counterpoint- people are down voting because they think its unlikely and many people are inherently gaurded against conspiratorial thinking- especially if they think it's unrealistic.

Whether you think its happening or not, the idea that the only reason anyone would downvote is because they're "opperatives" of the big social platforms is kind of out of touch with the fact that there are lots of people who don't think like you do. I'm a real person, love open source, and love the fediverse (have 3 lemmy accounts, plus an account for mastodon and pixelfed each) and I was tempted to down vote certain comments just because they seemed silly and a bit like fearmongering that there's a big bad boogey man out to get us.

I hope I'm being clear, communicating on the internet devoid of tone or facial expressions is hard- my point isn't that your perspective is silly, my point is that there are lots of people who would sincerely see it that way and disagree with you. Assuming that being disagreed with is a sign of the sort of conspiratorial situation you're describing is a self fulfilling prophecy. I hope I'm not coming across as hostile, that isn't my intent

Personally I think the other platforms are unlikely to see the fediverse as a problem until it proves it can be, because CEOs are stupid, and after eons of not having meaningful competition in this space I think they're likely to be overly proud and look down on our nice little platform. I think its far more likely its just the internet being shitty because lots of people on the internet like breaking or ruining anything they can, regardless of whether its a good thing to have exist. I could very easily be wrong, and perhaps other platform's owners do want to kill what we have before it can manifest into something bigger, but either way there are lots of sincerely held perspectives that might drive someone to down vote some of the comments here just because they think the situation being described is unrealistic.

[-] SrElsewhere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Points well made and taken, thanks. No hostility perceived at all.

Reasonable minds can differ and frequently do. And it could be that people may think my suggestion is unrealistic or even silly.

There's no shortage of miscreants out there who just like to mess with things, thrown wrenches into spokes, etc. And these types could well be behind the daily local issues.

But here's an important point, and no offense intended. Corporations are like The Terminator. But instead of getting Sarah Connor, they purse profits. And regardless of CEO intelligence or accumen, every Fortune 500 company has a department that deals in these areas. They all have their skunk works and use them. It's been this way for centuries. A primer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage

So whether they're operating here atm or not, there is nothing paranoid about assuming they are. If they're not, they will be. It's what they do.

Thanks for the input. :)

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But here's an important point, and no offense intended. Corporations are like The Terminator. But instead of getting Sarah Connor, they purse profits. And regardless of CEO intelligence or accumen, every Fortune 500 company has a department that deals in these areas. They all have their skunk works and use them. It's been this way for centuries. A primer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage

Lol, all very fair, corporations suck and are prone to doing anything shitty they can think of to even marginally improve their bottom line. Its an understandable sentiment.

I'm glad I was able to convey what I meant without it coming across as my being a dick :)

Take care! ❤️

[-] SrElsewhere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's an important life skill, being able to plant a thought in the mind of another and in a way that is likely to be accepted.

It crossed my mind since my last writing that, in the 80s, I got a money back guarantee for any counter-surveillance equipment purchased that didn't reveal surveillance equipment in a Fortune 100 facility. It was that pervasive back then. And my perception is that morals and business ethics have not improved in the interim. Far from it.

Good luck and thanks for the valuable, respectful input.

[-] Epicurus0319@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, many of them appear to be edgy script kiddies upset that people don’t wanna use their precious reddit anymore

[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The downvotes suggest their operatives are reading the comments.

Let's not do this. People are allowed to downvote without being a paid operative. This was a very common mentality on Reddit I would like to avoid here.

[-] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What makes Lemmy interesting is that you can see the combined upvotes and downvotes. It’s not a “net” votes system like some shithole site whose name I will not mention. So I think people can read into the voting system much more than they might have been able to do on some other awful and alienating place.

But, I too disagree with the conspiratorial comment that there are operatives downvoting people on Lemmy, as if that could do anything meaningful. I think the notion that Lemmy is being hacked because the major social media companies are afraid of it, is also very extreme and conspiratorial.

I agree we should support this community and people’s ability to react positively or poorly to a post or comment.