In the west for everyone in the PMC and upwards consequences do not exist and have never existed their entire lives. Bad stuff only happens to people far away or to poors that don't work hard enough. Most of them genuinely do not think that it will affect them.

Talked to a Pete buttigieg supporter yesterday and he said he wishes Biden would send troops into Ukraine

The West wants civilizational self-immolation.

The guilt of genocide can’t be pushed down anymore. Each subsequent war is a way to redeem themselves. It’s a form of long term self harm