322
University of Florida terminating all diversity, equity and inclusion positions
(www.theguardian.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 02 Mar 2024
322 points (98.2% liked)
Interesting Global News
2613 readers
337 users here now
What is global news?
Something that happened or was uncovered recently anywhere in the world. It doesn't have to have global implications. Just has to be informative in some way.
Post guidelines
Title format
Post title should mirror the news source title.
URL format
Post URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
[Opinion] prefix
Opinion (op-ed) articles must use [Opinion] prefix before the title.
Rules
1. English only
Title and associated content has to be in English.
2. No social media posts
Avoid all social media posts. Try searching for a source that has a written article or transcription on the subject.
3. Respectful communication
All communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. Inclusivity
Everyone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacks
Any kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangents
Stay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may apply
If something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.
Companion communities
- !legalnews@lemmy.zip - International and local legal news.
- !technology@lemmy.zip - Technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.
- !interestingshare@lemmy.zip - Interesting articles, projects, and research that doesn't fit the definition of news.
- !europe@feddit.org - News and information from Europe.
Icon attribution | Banner attribution
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I'm okay with them considering things other than strictly academics. It should be up to the uni to decide what kind of institution they want to be.
Would you be okay when they said "whites only" then?
If someone wants to doom their university, I wouldn't support using force to stop them. I don't think that means I'm okay with it.
I feel like there's a limit in there somewhere that I'd change from meh to "fuck those guys" on the racism front. A degree from a uni that doesn't focus on academics should warrant a reduction in the perceived value of their degrees.
I kind of think we've been distracted here, though. We're not talking about DEI or the ideologies that drive their activities. We're talking about AA. You can have AA policies without DEI staff or their question begging theories.
Well I technically said "if they said whites only", while it could be clothed in "you get -30 points out of 100" with the bar being 65 or something.
Except for the fact that affirmative action isn't all that nice and dandy either. Like, quotas are straight up bullshit and often are banned in countries in Europe. The only affirmative action that makes sense for the community, is when they have a skill that is in demand in the market. Like, reading wiki, in Finland, they let Swedish speaking people have worse grades to advance in legal and medical, because the country has a need of Swedish speaking lawyers and doctors.
I was referring to any amount of racism from 0-100. I'd just consider them all pieces of shit at 100 and only a little misled towards the other end.
I guess I feel like I'm willing to let peeps experiment a bit with their own shit so we can see the outcome. When what you're doing leads to more kids failing, that's obviously a bad policy.
I mostly take issue with the ideology that leads us to use AA that harms pretty much everyone, including the people it's designed to help.
The thing is - there are usually people who have done better. I don't mean "fail everyone, don't fill the seats". The entry bar gets naturally lowered when nobody can join. What I am saying, is that if there are 30 candidates for a spot, and a person gets in because of their race or background, and someone who scored higher gets rejected, then that's plain wrong.
In state funded schools I agree. Oh. That's the context of this post and I should have been more clear on that. For private institutions I don't think it matters much.
Well, yeah, public schools. They should be at a level where private schooling isn't required that much.