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For a week, it was worth a giggle. A flustered trackside nascar reporter attempting to avoid cursing on the news? That’s hilarious. Like every joke and/or horse, it was rapidly beaten past death. The body still receives unironic thwacks to this day.

Then it was revived as satire and resumed being funny for a fresh week or two. This was over a year ago. The horse is not just dead, it is not even a paste or powder, it has been completely aerosolized in a closed crimson room where people fan it back and forth in remembrance of beating its corpse.

Biden’s the best chance for continued democracy in the US, but I've been breathing in Brandon particulate since 2021 and I’m afraid it will give me lung cancer.

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[-] mister_monster@monero.town -2 points 8 months ago

This is a prisoners dilemma, yes I understand it. But there's a factor you're not considering: when all the people who don't legitimize it withdraw, it loses it's power over everyone by a little bit. If we all withdrew our support the system we live under might very well change to get our support back.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

No it doesn't though?

If all but one person abstained out of principle it wouldn't expose the flaws in the system, it would just leave the decision in that one person's hands.

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 8 months ago

That's what you said, yeah. Doesn't make it true.

The system we live under doesn't exist in a vacuum, it doesn't have power on its own, it's not a temple we worship in. It's one we maintain. Without us it doesn't exist.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is the mechanism by which the system works, functionally. Deviating from that system requires some concerted action, passive abstinence is not positive action. Simply not participating does not change the system. Simply not participating yields the result I outlined above.

"Us" is not you and the people who agree with you, it is the sum total of everyone who actively participates. If you subtract yourself and the people who agree with you from that sum total, the "us" that perpetuates the system becomes those who continue to actively participate. You do not speak for everyone, so choosing to be silent merely erases your voice from "us". Do you want everyone else to speak for you?

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 8 months ago

Nobody speaks for me but me, not even "my representative." It's not just silence, it's withdrawal. I will not be browbeaten and scaremongered into participating in my own abuse. Enjoy your token voice, I'll be busy out here living my way.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Withdrawal does not have a function in the process. There is no clause in any Constitution which declares that if a large portion of people "withdraw", they have a new election with better candidates. Withdrawal is simply forfeiting your share of the decision making process. You will be out there living by the whims of those who chose not to withdraw.

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 8 months ago

Well there's reality and then there's these documents. It doesn't matter what the paper says, if enough people don't behave as if it is legitimate it will lose it's power over people. You're thinking from inside the system as if it is eternal made of stone. It isn't. It's made of us.

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