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Chat Apps (kbin.run)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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[-] clot27@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

and how? dont send me a decade old audit on the protocol which telegram abandoned around the same time.

[-] strahlemann@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.

[-] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

And how does being e2ee by default guarantee you are secure? whatsapp doesnt even encrypt metadata.

[-] strahlemann@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

I don't like whatsapp either but my claim still holds. e2ee by default for all chats is arguably more privacy respecting than opt-in e2ee for 1-1 chats only. and what metadata exactly does telegram encrypt but whatsapp does not?

[-] clot27@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

e2ee by default only for your data to be used when you back it up. Atleast there have been no data breaches reported in telegram so far

[-] strahlemann@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

you can encrypt backups in whatsapp but we might agree on whatsapp and telegram being equally bad then

no data breaches reported in telegram so far

yes they hand it out voluntarily, search term: telegram german authorities

[-] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

only if you are terrorist or do some CP stuff. Besides there are ton of reasons why I should use telegram. Its a lot more featureful, its easy for people to move their and its secure enough for me because I am not a terrorist and I dont sell drugs, thanks.