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Our childhood vaccines are documented to be safe. He is a conspiracy theorist who is assisting the murder of children.
Advocating for big pharma being more responsible for the drugs they pump into our system, while bribing FDA officials isn't assisting the murder of children.
If anyone is against holding big pharma responsible for the opiod epidemic, and holding the FDA responsible for it, is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.
You’re bad at trolling lol.
Either that or you REALLY don’t want to read RFK’s bio, even after another commenter linked to a source
I know RFK's bio.
Do you know your favorite big pharma companies bio? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
What's funny is how many settlements there are, despite the federal government protecting them from the majority of lawsuits. Imagine getting sued this much, when the government makes it illegal hahaha
He's concerned that some vaccines are unnecessary for kids that we require for every kid.
For example the NHS in the UK advises against the chickenpox vaccine.
I just looked it up and the NHS does not warn against it at all. They only administer it to certain people.
The NHS also doesn’t buy enough MRI machines, leading to long wait times. Does that mean they’re anti-MRI? No, they’re just frugal
You're right, I apologize for my framing.
They only recommend it to a small minority of people.
So...they don't recommend it to the majority of people.
Again, reread my comment about efficiency and cost-saving.
Or are you agreeing that it’s perfectly safe and we have no reason to doubt that?
Again, re-read my comment about RFK Jr. wanting our standards to be more in line with the rest of our peer countries.
Our FDA is bribed by big-pharma, who constantly lie to consumers and have no repurcussions, despite us know they lie to us. I'd rather break out of the system where big pharma runs our healthcare policies.
Shingles for everyone!
Not having the vaccine, and encouraging natural immunity actually reduces the effects of shingles.
When people get chickenpox, the virus remains in the body. This can then reactivate at a later date and cause shingles. Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult (for example, through contact with infected children) boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur.
Yeah, and being exposed to chickenpox as a child makes you more likely to have shingles as an adult. Most people encounter it as a child.
Most children don't get shingles.
Obviously. They get chicken pox, which is the same virus. Having chickenpox as a child predisposes you to shingles as an adult.
So it seems you don't understand.
I recommend reading the NHS website for their opinions on why they don't recommend the chicken pox vaccine.
So, basically get chicken pox earlier to build immunity, regardless if it makes you more susceptible to shingles, to better protect you from shingles as an adult. Since it is more likely to hurt you as an adult versus as a kid.
Sill seems fine to still vaccinate as that would lower the amount of chickenpox floating around to begin with...
Both options seem reasonable to me, although I would lean on vaccination still.
If both getting vaxxed or not getting vaxxed is reasonable, is that something we should require for nearly kids?
I would yes.
I disagree, if there's a negligable difference, why form people to get a shot from big pharma that's known to lie to the FDA, CDC and the public
I didn't say there was negligible difference or was talking about big pharma.
You said both options are reasonable, but you're going to force people to make the decision that you support?
Not forced. Require for public schools and such.
And what happens if your kid doesn't go to the government education institutes?
They take your kid away.
Literally it's forced to vaccinate your kids or they get taken away.
So once again, you see it as reasonable someone may not want to give their kids the chicken pox vaccine, but you're forcing it, at the threat of taking their children away?
All no.
To which parts?
You started out pretty well, seeing both sides of the issue, understanding why some may choose not to get the CP vaxx. But then you turned totalitarian real quick.
"It's not mandated. Only if they go to public school...which you pay for. So you pay for a school that you're mandated to send your children to unless you want them taken away and put into the foster care system where they will get sexually abused, and you have to inject them with whatever we say, or else you can't send them to school, which we will then take your kids away."
Still all no.
You have absolutely no argument at all. Just because you say 'no' doesn't make it wrong.
What wrong?
If you have no argument against my statements, you admit you have inconsistent reasoning, and that makes it unconvincing.
No, and I explained why.
You didn't explain anything. You just keep saying no. You sound like a politician. Just keep saying no and eventually the smarter person gives up on trying to convince you, and you think you won.
Have a good day.
What? I thought we were having a conversation.
Oh well. Vaccinate your kids boys and girls. Chau~
Herd immunity. Not killing immunocompanized children is a good thing.
Edit: This doesn't seem to have nested properly.
Ribbit
Or else...I might agree with most of western europe?
I thought the left thought that was a good thing!
Ribbit
Yes I have, many.
I mean, I sourced the NHS. I'm not interviewing citizens in western europe, but I also never claimed to have.
Chicken Pox and Shingles are the same virus.