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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago

You need to realize that outside of your internet bubble and in the real world people just want boring plain old boring liberalism & conservatism

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, people usually go "thank god I have no food in my pantry, because I couldn't fix my teeth to chew it, but at least the stock exhange is looking good, I'm sure that this time some wealth will trickle down my way"

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

The average American makes 60 to 90k per year. I hope that clarifies for you why normal boring political ideologies keep winning elections.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 8 months ago

That data in a vacuum is as useful as a dick sprouting out of your elbow overnight.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Respectfully disagree. As a habitual grass-toucher, I find the vast majority of people I discuss progressive policies with are massively in favor of all of them. Paid family leave, increased minimum wage, access to best quality healthcare outside of employers, universal federal background checks for firearms purchases…these are all massively popular. And it’s not just my anecdotal experiences here, polling data shows these all to be extremely popular, even on both sides of the liberal and conservative ”divide”. We are well within our rights to expect the government to do things for us, not just for the corporations.

It’s mostly mainstream media outlets such as msnbc, fox, cnn, etc that perpetuate this myth of how the status quo is so wonderful and we could never do better. According to them, the politicians in Washington are political geniuses who should be revered. And wouldn’t you know it - these same multinational companies rake in profits to the tune of billions due to the system favoring them.

Maybe as well, some boomers who never gave a shit about politics and were able to raise a family on a single income back in the day would think this. Most normal people know this is complete bs and that we’re being screwed, including the vast majority of those under 40 who tend to not consume the traditional news media and get it from varied other sources. You just don’t hear about how we’re all being robbed of our wealth and our dignity on tv.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Yes that's the crux of it isn't it. Progressive ideas are popular but progressive candidates don't win. I think it's a Nixon opening China situation, voters want universal healthcare but they want a person like Ted Cruz to be the one to give it to them.

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