106
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In a way, he's right. You can't expect a trillion dollar private company to do anything but maximize profits any way they can get away with. It's in the interest of the public to overthrow capitalism and the responsibility falls on us to understand this and do this. ExxonMobil exists with the consent of the masses.

[-] Vegoon@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

For most of the 140 years Exxon exists it was not the willful ignorance of the consumers but the deception, propaganda, lies and lobbying they made. While we are to blame for not overthrowing capitalism, companies are to blame for their malicious actions. If they just sold their product without mentioning the known problems I would agree.

The animal industry is responsible for 20% of the GHG and even though we are in the chains of capitalism we have the choice to not support them, do they exist with your consent?

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The animal industries have their own lobbying and disinformation campaigns. The pro-corporate media environment is an inextricable part of capitalist society. Their CEOs and those of Exxon et al are all basically saying "we're doing what we're permitted to do, it's your job to reign us in for any social good whatsoever". Any rational actor in a society that permits this will do this if given the opportunity. They're products of their environment. Sometimes they'll get ratioed on X, and agree to some small concession, a mere unconscious twitch of the power of the people causing multibillion $ companies to yelp in terror.

[-] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

The animal industries have their own lobbying and disinformation campaigns.

Among others this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Organizational_Research_and_Education from all time hits like "most doctors smoke camel"

But most now know the results of cigarettes, fossile fuels and the animal industry. Many people who drive are forced by the current infrastructure which was build with the car in the mind. It could be way less and way smaller cars though. For the animal industry we have alternatives and the personal choice to not consent to the system. It is in our interest: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357

this post was submitted on 06 Mar 2024
106 points (98.2% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5240 readers
662 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS