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[-] nac82@lemm.ee 52 points 8 months ago

What is the intentional meaning of Scott Pilgrim besides being an awkward teen brained romance plot?

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Scott objectifies Ramona, and through a series of physical fights with her exes, learns that he was fighting for a person that only existed as an idealized version of a perfect relationship. He subconsciously devalues Ramona, Knives, and himself throughout the entire film and only at the end does he realize that Ramona is a real person who should be treated like a real person and not a trophy.

Most people just like it because of the stylistic graphic novel aesthetic that they NAILED.

[-] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Let's be fair here. While that is the point of the Scott and Ramona story, the movie didn't really put a lot of effort into portraying that. The comics went a little more deeply into that dynamic and fleshing out the relationship, it was still pretty much the background against the character personality showcasing, and over the top dramatic fights. The movie really did nail the vibe and the characters but the whole "I think I learned something" and the end of the movie really downplays the "lesson" of the whole plot. So much so that I don't think Scott himself even fully understood the actual lesson he just learned. Just that what he was doing was wrong, and needed to change, but not why and what exactly it was he needed to change.

Great movie for sure, even better comic series, but a deep complex plot it isn't.

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Scott not really understanding what he learned or why he needed to change actually fits very well with the new anime.

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

And the books! The big takeaway from scott pilgrim really shouldn’t be idolizing either scott or ramona. They both need therapy.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 months ago

I am not usually one to roll my eyes at literary analysis, but these themes are not well developed in the movie at all. It is absolutely meant to be a visually interesting teen romcom first, with some commentary about relationships tagging along for the ride.

[-] III@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Those original concepts were in the movie but it was a missed landing. If the ending had been done differently the themes would have fit well enough with the majority of the film.

[-] nac82@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

I'm going to be honest, I watched it once in high school because a friend was a fan. It has been a long time since then. This is a casual viewers input with maybe a decade viewing gap lol.

I remember the cool graphics, and I remember not liking Scott very much. The drummer chick was cool, but the focus on Scott's perspective demanded focus over her for telling the story you describe. Cera put me off some films back then, but I find I appreciate his earlier work in Arrested Development more nowadays.

No real valuable input to be had from me, but as a fan from other fandoms, I can appreciate the struggle of enjoying a setting and then having it consumed for cheap visual entertainment.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 8 points 8 months ago

I think the films original ending was really nice.

For the uninitiated: after saying goodbye to Nega Scott, he realises he was only infatuated with Ramona, and goes back to dating Knives.

They go back to the ninja arcade dancing game where they broke up, and have fun playing together again.

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[-] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Perfect synopsis. Thank you.

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I love the comic book-ness that this film has. Julie's censor was hilarious

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Her actress is so goddamn hot. I think her name is Alyson Hannigan

[-] CurbsTickle@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns..

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

No I meant the chick who was in Legion, I think you're thinking of the hot librarian from Buffy

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 6 points 8 months ago

Nothing nobody confuses it I've never heard of a strange Scott Pilgrim take. This post is not it

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The movie doesn't get into it as much, but the comic focuses a lot more on how Scott is always the good guy in his own head, but in actuality he's kind of continually been shitty to his partners. Really recommend the comics, because while the movie did a great job of capturing the look and feel of the comic, there's a lot of material in the comic that the movie just didn't have time to cover.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Capitalism destroys the human will to live.

[-] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Isn't this an underpinning of every story produced under capitalism?

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