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It takes s a long time to really fracture a party, it doesn't happen overnight
And honestly, the DNC's actions over the past primaries culminating in them pulling an entire states delegates in a primary Biden was not in any danger of losing...
Ds will fracture first. Or they'll both happen the same cycle at least.
If NH doesn't get delegates in 28 for something Dems in NH has no control of, the dem party is pretty much over.
I don't see NH republicans changing the state law, and I don't see DNC backing down because NH keeps going progressive.
So I expect NH won't get primary delegates for a while.
DNC drew a line in the sand. And there's no way for NH Dems to legally do what they want.
Whether or not the DNC understands doesn't matter. They're either completely ignorant of how the law works, or actively working against democracy.
The Federalist Party basically died with Hamilton. The Communist Party of the USSR was thought to be entrenched right up to the moment it wasn't. Political change can happen surprisingly swiftly.
That goes double when the group is rallied around a specific person. That person goes away and the group shatters. The GOP is primed for this, and we're somewhat fortunate that even in the worst case scenario, they rallied around a 77 year old man who eats a lot of McDonald's.
Save us, cholesterol, you're our only hope.
If trump died today, another grifter who wants the same shit would emerge by morning.
If anything they'd be more dangerous because they wouldn't be so open about it.
Don't forget Hillary was pushing for trump in 2016 because he was the only one she thought she could beat.
trump isn't special, he's not some once in a generation politician. Neoliberals just say that about any Republican running for president because that's the only way people can be convinced to vote for neoliberals.
Doesn't matter who his replacement is, the replacement would be better at hiding the crimes.
No, he's exactly that. His cult of personality is not easy to replicate. There will always be political grifters, but ones who can mobilize a mass movement are rare.
Do you not remember GW Bush?
If you didn't live thru, you might believe that no Republicans supported him while president, because as soon as he left office they all said they never did
When trump is gone, it'll be the same.
They'll drop him in an instant, move to the next one, and claim that's how it's always been.
They do it with damn every president.
Hell, look at fucking Regan, he managed to hang on a little, but it was the same thing
This happens over and over and over...
But you're just going to keep disagreeing, and I don't think explaining it a 4th time will help
Yes, I was 18 in 2000.
He was not a cult of personality the way Trump is. There is nobody who can follow him. The GOP is no longer fostering a clear successor like they used to. You can see this in how well Trump-endorsed candidates do in their elections. Even when they win, they under perform, because Trump voters want the man himself, not his lackeys.
For every L Ron Hubbard (where the organization goes on without him more or less as it was), there are a hundred Oneida cults (where the leader being jailed left the group a shadow of what it was).