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Palestinian town of Jericho names street after US soldier who set himself on fire
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I still question the intentions of the media and how a lot of outlets immediate ran to claim his actions as mental health related.
Like sure, I can see where that's coming from in a sense since self-immolation is inherently self-harm and you have to question a person's mental health for doing so, but at the same time, I don't know of anybody off-hand who says the same about the Buddhist monks who did the same in Vietnam.
Maybe times have changed and people don't see that action the same way as they used to back then, but if they are going to call this a result of mental health, I really hope they keep consistency with that from here on forward.
Mental health is a scapegoat for reasonable reactions to the absolutely horrible times we are living through.
I agree. Recognizing that "greedy scumbag" is the default for humanity has really put things into perspective for me.
Someone does something crazy for a cause I agree with -> Heroic, valiant, inspiring
Someone does something crazy for a cause I disagree with -> Mentally ill, traumatised, brainwashed
Lest I'd have to begin to consider I might have been supporting monsters all along.
The only mental health issues I see are from the people in power that stand by and let these atrocities go unchecked.
They're beholden to Zionists.
They don't report in good faith.
Ex: Israeli prisoners are "hostages" while Palestinian prisoners are "detainees."
This whole shitshow is a case study of propaganda and indoctrination, along with the war in Ukraine.
What exactly do you mean?
Nothing! There is no propaganda supporting Ukraine.
Just look away...
There's lots of propaganda around the war in Ukraine, seems you've fallen for it in fact.
Yeah, I thought they were gonna take back Crimea too :(
At least I can learn from my mistakes. That's more than most of you can say.
It's still in the cards but would take some major major negative developments for the Russians, like major mutinies or supply issues or economic collapse.
The War could still very much go either way, hence the US and Europe caring about it so much.
Also I apologize if my original comment sounded hostile, your comment came off tankieish and I always get feisty with those.
Just to explain why, not to take from your broader point, it's because he's not of the people being harmed. Typically this form of protest is done by those being harmed.
The thing is, and I'm not bringing it to say it is anyone's obligation no matter what they do or who they are, but Bushnell was a soldier. A soldier is usually already not as removed from the idea of death or harm coming their way, unlike most other people. Ideally, they are not readily available to put their own lives in the line, but they are aware the job entails duty and that duty may require more than common resources, hence putting the body at risk.
When you simply shift this duty to uphold justice for oppressed people on the other side of the planet rather than to sit with thumbs twiddling for your own country's military orders, it is easily justifiable to use this resource in line to protect others.
A journalist, a psychiatrist, or many of the other life occupancies have different resources they use and can also utilize as a last resort.
Airman. He also had some pretty extreme claims about who exactly was doing what in Gaza.
An airman is a specific subset of soldier. I know you're just trying to be dismissive, but stop being a pedantic asshole, and wrong at that.
Soldiers serve in an army. The USAF hasn't been a part of the army since 1947. Pedantic, sure. Wrong? No.
A definition for soldier is one who serve in an army and an army is "a large organized body of armed personnel trained for war especially on land" (emphasis mine, note not explicitly on land) or "a unit capable of independent action and consisting usually of a headquarters, two or more corps, and auxiliary troops"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/army
The Air Force absolutely fits the latter definition, and it fits the former as well if you don't consider the land part exclusive, which it isn't.
Other definitions of soldier also exist, which do not require it be a member of an army, but a military in general. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soldier
If you're going to be pedantic, at least be pedantic and accurate. There's no sense in being pedantic and wrong.
Not the best example.
There were soldiers dishonorably discharged from Vietnam for shell shock because PTSD was not yet officially recognized at the time. And because of that discharge, they were then not able to get VA benefits for the mental healthcare that they needed.
Source: https://vva.org/benefits-updates/vva-on-dod-announcement-of-guidance-for-upgrading-discharge-requests/
What is the connection between a monk immolating himself and American soldiers having ptsd?
The OP has a valid point in that both cases were instances of self immolation.
OP made the connection to the monks and said that what they did was not questioned as a mental health issue. I only meant to point out that there was not a great track record of mental health issues being identified/treated during that time.