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Missouri man fatally shoots his mother at home after mistaking her for intruder
(www.theguardian.com)
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The more you try to ban guns, the harder they fight back.
How are people living on farms supposed to defend themselves against robbers if they don't own guns?
This is what you city people don't understand because you think city life is the only life that matters.
No one's trying to ban guns you fucking twat.
Under the current laws on the books, federal funds can't even be used to be study gun violence. These are the laws people are talking about changing when we call for gun policy reform. When this country talks about gun reform and idiots like you who understand exactly nothing about the laws currently on the books have a conniption, these are the kinds of laws that end up not getting changed.
Guns make every environment they are a part of less safe. You only need a gun to defend yourself if you're a huge pussy, or you want the opportunity to accidently shoot your own family members. You don't need a gun in the city or the country to defend yourself.
Lots of people are trying to ban guns. Plenty of campaigns and bills come up all the time.
It's unrealistic to believe they'll have a significant amount of support, even in the most liberal of states, but saying that nobody wants to ban guns is false.
Also, saying that there's never a need for a gun in modern society is false. There are absolutely cases where people have legally defending themselves in situations where few people would disagree with the usage. Those cases are also very rare and the availability of guns in society is a net negative, you are significantly more likely to be harmed by a firearm if you own one.
All that being said, blanket falsehoods do not help these arguments. We do need to study firearm deaths, and amend the constitution to allow for better laws around firearms, but we don't need to exaggerate to make that point, the facts are enough.
Why is this only a problem in the US? You don’t think other countries have farmers? Or maybe that problem only exists in your head.
Its not only a problem in the US. Read some foreign interior news
I don’t live in the US. I live in a rural area in Europe. It’s not at all a problem here. Probably only a problem in shithole countries like the US.
You know how I know you're lying? I'm not American, for a start.
There are other shithole countries other than the US.
If you need guns just to be safe, you by definition live in a shithole.
calling the US a shithole country is the most privleged thing ive ever heard
LOLWUT
How is that privileged?
i am sure someone in a war torn country is saying "gee it sucks my family is getting killed, but at least im not in a shithole like the united states"
calling the united states a shithole is an insult to actual countries that suck to live in, it just shows you probably dont know much about how bad it can get. there is a reason millions immigrate to the US
What are you gonna tell me next, no ones ever broke into a rural property late at night in your country?
You think lethal violence is an appropriate response to a burglary? If you responded like that over here you’d be going to prison for far, far longer than the burglar would.
You don’t need a gun, you need a shrink.
If you think your crappy shit is worth more than a persons life then you are truly sick in the head.
I'm not the one judging the value of their life. They are. What's the matter with you, could you see something bad happening to you? Is this a risk you've took?
So you deem yourself judge, jury and executioner?
You truly live in a lawless shithole if you think like that.
You're not listening. Stay the fuck out of peoples houses, you deserve everything you get, and it ain't the person lives there decided that, you did. "lawless shithole" sounds more like a place you can break n enter with near impunity.
We have a functional justice system where I live. Guilt and punishment is established in court in a fair trial, not by a random redneck with a gun. I know this must be a novel concept for you but I ensure you it is the civilized way to do it.
So, what you're saying is that you value a person's right to break into your home and do whatever they please far more than you value your person, your family and all of your property, because they might hypothetically be punished at some later date. I just hope if someone breaks into your home they're just looking for something to steal they can turn quick for drug money and not looking to do you and yours harm.
Your redneck with a gun scenario in the US is answered by the castle doctrine - the basic premise is that if someone is invading your home you hold the right to use deadly force to stop them. It's well known here, and it's not like you just accidentally do a home invasion. Stay out of other people's homes uninvited and it's not a problem.
If someone enters your home in a place operating under the castle doctrine, then they're making the decision that your worthless crap is worth risking their life over. It's not like people just accidentally a home invasion.
Crime in the US is weird. "Which country is safer" is a bad metric because most of the US is as safe or safer, but certain parts are extremely dangerous. Like there are individual neighborhoods in Chicago that have 17x as many homicides per year as the capitol city of my state and more homicides per year than my hometown has had total since the Civil War. Most of the other big urban metros have similar areas.
Yes officer, this post right here.
If you need guns in order to feel safe at home, you must admit you live in a shithole country
virgin "guns make my country safer" versus the chad "my country is so fucked i need a gun to make me feel safe"
Think. About. The farmers.
Stupidest reason a pro gun person ever brought up on lemmy. You know there are more convincing ones that you can make yours so at least people can take you seriously?
I don't know why don't you try begging for more government money to not grow?
459 comments in 9 days, all trolling in news subs.
This is satire right?
Look at the guys post history, it's all troll comments and all within the past week or so. 459 comments
Clearly something that needs an investigation and lots more data
…. But this “city person” believes people in rough parts of cities are most likely demographic to be victim of gun crimes, and most of us are in more danger from guns kept as defense than in a criminal’s hands. Also, guns used for hunting are different than guns typically used in crimes or for defense. You may disagree, but that’s why better data is important