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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 81 points 8 months ago

Everyone should see how incredibly important this project is, and its potential. Wikipedia is yet another US-controlled and domiciled site, with a history of bribery, scandals, and links to the US state department. It has a near-monopoly on information in many languages, and its reach extends far outside US borders. Federation allows the possibility of connecting to other servers, collaborating on articles, forking articles, and maintaining your own versions, in a way that wikipedia or even a self-hosted mediawiki doesn't.

Also ibis allows limited / niche wikis, devoted to specific fields, which is probably the biggest use-case I can see for Ibis early on.

Congrats on a first release!

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wikipedia also releases all content for free download under a permissive license, so I don't think it's fair to say that the US government is a meaningful threat to its quality of information, especially over non-English languages that are managed by an independent set of volunteers who could pack up their bags and move everything over wherever they want at any point.

Still a cool project and technological diversity is good though.

[-] ikka@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 8 months ago

Wikipedia also releases all content for free download under a permissive license, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that the US government is a meaningful threat to its quality of information

What? How are these two points related at all?

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Anyone can fork at any time. The US gov could theoretically hold Wikipedia's brand and servers hostage, but the actually valuable stuff is already mirrored in a decentralized fashion that is completely unrestricted under US and international law.

EDIT: Maybe you meant that the US could covertly vandalize Wikipedia? Maybe, if they keep it very low-key. Editors are used to this kind of stuff though, it happens all the time from all governments since they can just, y'know, edit it. Anything actually impactful will be noticed by the editors which will just cause a fork.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Many of the editors are themselves neoliberal American cultural imperialists and proud of it. The issue isn't direct control so much as an army of useful idiots.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

That statement ITSELF is American cultural Imperialism. There are a bunch of languages other than English on Wikipedia...

Also [citation needed].

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