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I agree with others in this thread, although I think it's worth noting that conservatives and socialists don't have much reason at all to interact with each other. What is the point?
Liberals at least pretend to be progressive, and we call them out on their bullshit and then they get mad, and so on.
Plus, a lot of the "more extreme" (by lib standards) communities on Reddit for example have been purged (us included) and they mostly interact with each other for the more part (like on hexbear, or in the case of the right on patriots dot win)
So all that being said, of course libs annoy us more, they are the primary shitheads who we interact with in social spaces both online and off.
Searing hot take but your average maga brainlet is closer to us than an average self described liberal.
Maga is wrought by experiencing material conditions in the US but having no coherent ideological framework to describe them (along with a reflexive aversion to communism).
If you can find a way to introduce the theory, and there are many entry points— getting fucked by the boss, the depravity of the deep state, politicians only benefiting the rich etc. they can be brought around. they at least see and acknowledge that there are serious underlying problems
You will never convert a “progressive” liberal, they have it too good
This by the way is why the democrats are turning into “the party of people who went to college” as Matt C put it
Yeah, that rings true. Reminds me of hearing second-hand from people canvassing for Bernie during the primaries that talking to republican households was a million times easier than Buttigeg or Kamala libs who were just on a different fucking planet entirely. The republicans were just normal working class people who want health care, but the libs were just fawning over how much he reminded them of Obama in how he spoke (which as we know was deliberate and intentional)