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Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”

“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

I mean you say 'legitimate grievances' then proceed to ignore what happened to NH.

The reality of the situation that we're all in is that oarty primaries are the only 'real' mechanism we get to engage with democracy in a material way, and time and time again the stewards of those parties are thumbing the scales towards specific outcomes.

You acknowledge it, then dismiss it as 'nonesense'. It's not fucking nonsense. There is almost nothing 'democratic' about the DNCs primary process. If you run a competitive race but aren't the predidermined party leadership acceptable candidate, they steal it from you, in fact, they'll conspire to do so. If a state 'votes wrong', they take your primary from you. It's material and real you chucklefuck and dismissing it trivializes the real consequences it has around voter disenfranchisement.

If we consider the primary process to be a part of our political system, and we should because it is, the DNC is less democratic than some of the lowest ranking "democracies" in the planet. The RNC didn't rig their primary to stop Trump. The DNC did so to stop Bernie, twice. And when a state which was one of the first in the nation primaries gave the primary to the non-dccc candidate, they took the primary away from that state.

It's an indefensible mockery of the word democracy to call the DNCs primary a democratic process

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Conveniently skipped over where I asked someone, and anyone can do this, to name the viable leftist challenger in the recent NH primary, that would make holding it worthwhile.

And really, can name a non-leftist challenger too if you want, if you really think Dean had a real shot or something.

The degree of personal attacks and cherry-picked arguments in here is remarkable.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Oh stfu you pedant.

You are dismissing the structural critique that makes your first point irrelevant.

There are no viable challengers because the DNC has repeatedly changed the rules or moved the goal posts to prevent that from happening again.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Ah, more conspiracy theory. Bernie ran just fine. Twice. He's not even a registered democrat. You got any evidence of the new rule that prevented it from happening this time, or just an anonymous claim on the internet?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago
[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

My, sure does get personal fast when people don't just agree with folks.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Its your intentional ignorance that's the problem here bro. You cherry pick which parts of the past you want to acknowledge and which ones you don't.

There is no holding still on a moving train.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Well, the topic was the canceling of the NH primary. So, talking about the NH primary seemed pretty reasonable to me.

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