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If porn is the only thing stopping someone from raping another person, then their problems are a whole lot deeper than porn
So? If porn is the only thing that stopped me from getting raped, then my problem is solved. I'd call that a win.
The perspective we need
Yes. But not the problems of the victim.
While true it still is stopping them. I don't really care that much of a person is intrinsically a good person or not I care what their action's are.
Question: what do you call someone capable of the act of rape that has never raped anyone? Answer: normal.
Well said. In a world without stop signs, traffic lights, laws and judges, the people who think they're the most wholesome may otherwise be the most vicious perpetrators.
We like to think being a good person is an innate thing. Truth is, hatred, jealousy, lust, anger, murder, rape, violence - they're all human nature. Every single person reading this comment is capable of murder if the set of circumstances required it. Societal conditioning (including education), the environment you're raised in, social punishments, the threat of lack of freedom, and learned introspection are the factors preventing people from doing these things.
If you're the nicest person someone has met, then you lucked out, but it has very little to do with your 'true nature.' One caveat: some people seem to be born with a predisposition towards violence. Not many are born with a predisposition to anti-violence. Anti-violence is as innate in humans as the English language. Nobody's born with it, but if you're raised with it then you do it mostly subconsciously. If anti-violence was a common function of human DNA then we'd all have been eaten by lions. Just to illustrate it further, even plants innately use violence (poisons) as an anti-predation mechanism, although they (probably) aren't conscious.
I can't count the number of times in AA and NA I heard stories about people not knowing it wasn't 'normal' to get fucked up and beat their spouse until they were out of their parents house.
I agree with you. However, that's oversimplifying the matter. I don't think every case in which "porn helped prevent a rape" has porn as the one and only reason.
Indeed!
Thank you. This had to be said. Our culture is gravely ill...
Our... culture?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:War_crimes_committed_by_country
I meant in the way that members of a society interact with each other and how negative and antisocial qualities are reaching mainstream promotion because it's profitable, but amusing way to pare down 100% of human history into two of the bleakest articles on Wikipedia I guess lol.
Yes people can be awful. Chances are higher than zero that terrible traditions have been a thing in history. Nobody is surprised.
Religion can sometimes prevent mass murderers, so you're absolutely right
Doubt.
I'm full on anti-religion, but some crazies have said the fear of eternal damnation is the only reason they don't go out murdering
I have my doubts about how accurate their assessment is. I said things like that when I was a theist and turns out I am still pretty boring even without the fear of hell. However, on the off chance I am wrong and quite literally the only thing keeping someone from being a murderer is the fear of hell well they should probably still believe in hell.
This is what the narcissist does to you. They convince you that you are nothing and even less than nothing without them. Religion teaches people that they are worthless and can only be saved from their deserved fate by absolute obedience.