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I recently got a confused look when I said that I pay for my email provider (3€/mo, but 1€/mo would also work).
Many people don't realize that operating an email server creates cost and they pay with letting Google/Yahoo/… read and analyze their communication.
How do you get around websites that force you to use whitelisted domains? I had a self hosted email for a while and I was often considered spam.
I tell them to go fuck themselves. A more serious problem is that unless you sign up with a provider that has all of the encryption/verification stuff sorted out and a significant amount of outgoing mail, your messages will go straight to spam for everyone else.
I've never encountered a site which had an allow list of domain names. The hardest thing about self hosting an email server is most home ISPs will block SMTP as it's a source of spam. Usually this requires business level ISP or an SMTP relay, both which aren't usually free from what you're already paying for home internet.
My local cinema locked my account after I changed my old GM for SimpleLogin. They told me I must use "non temporary or encrypted email" to log in.
That's not an allowlist though, SimpleLogin was on a denylist, possible because of high rates of spam. An allow list would be if they only allowed
@gmail.comfor example. If you have your own domain and set it up to use Proton Mail, you shouldn't have any problems.Well... More or less. They specifically told me that I needed a "public domain email" and that it couldn't be encrypted. I read their ToS and it wasn't written anywhere. They didn't sound like they were too tech savvy and I had to insist before I got that answer. They are most likely just a call center with a manual to follow.
What I bothered the most is that they allowed me to change the mail. The kept sending me (wanted) ads there and I could login into their site. They even kept charging my subscription. Until I tried to pay for extra tickets. That broke their system and got stuck. After that I couldn't even use the tickets I already had in my account from the subscription.
I'm not proud to admit that I finally caved and went back to my old mail for the moment. I even had to show them an ID (which at least partially defaced before) so that I could use the tickets I has already paid for
What ? Is that even legal for them to do so ?
Don't know. Probably. I'm not in the US or UE, our laws are still dealing with that new thing called Fax Machine
"But my mails are here in the browser!"
"All the spam is annoying! Can you do something about it?"
I operate my own email, as the network gods intended
I want to do it and habe been offputting it because im worried that im gonna fuck something up and bc i dont really know how
Same. 1€ a month for some local service, hosted in my country, which means they have to abide by EU laws. And also I can actually use their calendar with Thunderbird. Damn google calendar stopped working every update and needed an addon to work in the first place.