I would do everything Joel did 50 times over even if I knew it would "doom" the world because at that moment, having armed goons assaulting me while my 'daughter' is who knows where and some sketchy woman telling me to "trust her" means a helluva lot more than whatever world is out there. But at the same time, actions have consequences, regardless if what you did was good or bad, rational or not. If I was in Abby's position and someone like Joel did that to my family, I would also do what she did 50 times over. I don't know if Joel is "good," and he's certainly not "condemned" by the writers, but he'll always be literally me.

These people want "nuance" and a "marketplace of ideas," but when a piece of media explores the human condition where emotions naturally triumphs any logic and one situation is presented in multiple perspectives, then they immediately screech because their beard daddy is no longer seen as universally good. But I don't understand. These people presumably are the same ones who say "I'll do anything to protect my family," but being seen as "the bad guy" is where they draw the line? Why does it matter? I would never apologize for doing what Joel did even if Ellie and the whole world condemned me because I'll do anything to protect my family.