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submitted 7 months ago by BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 70 points 7 months ago

People acting more terrified at the loss of tik tok from their lives than they did during covid, while losing people from their lives.

Tik tok might as well just change their name to empathy box, because they have convinced their users that the act of watching content on empathy box makes them more moral and politically aware than the rest of us.

At the end of the day, we have to be nervous when a foreign nation has content reach to 80℅ of Americans. This foreign nation is banning Americans from accusing it of genocide while allowing an economic incentive for Americans to accuse themselves and everybody else of doing it.

Deep down, every one of us knows tik tok is a power nobody can or should be trusted with.

[-] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 28 points 7 months ago

Don't use TikTok, don't really care too much either way, but watching this whole thing unfold is starting to open my eyes to the ways these companies can shape public opinion.

They're apparently sending notifications to people to contact their reps and it seems very likely that they're promoting content that advocates against the ban.

I'm not a fan of censorship or blocking internet services but TikTok really seems to trying to make a good case for it.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

My understanding is that while rights are inalienable, meaning we recognize that Chinese citizens have the inherent right of free speech as well, not just in our direction, I'm not sure we grant free speech to mean a foreign state gets to use its technology to determine our national conversation.

I'm sure there would be teenage trans kids who through confusion ended up pro hamas, but I think tik tok could almost be accused of creating and fostering a movement that is certainly close to that very thing.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Wait. Are you blaming China for the anti Israel movement in politics?

That's... Impressive. Hilarious too but also impressive.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

I never conflated a pro-hamas movement with an anti-israel one.

If there are leftists or vulnerable minorities who have become indoctrinated into pro-hamas rhetoric, yes, I clearly think tik tok is responsible because these kids certainly aren't reading it on on storm front.

I am not interested in having a conversation where you pretend I am talking about the pro Palestine/anti Israeli government movements.

[-] Kalysta@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

My dude. No leftist is pro Hamas. Hamas wants to create a religious ethnostate just like Israel wants to create a religious ethnostate. We ARE pro Palestinian freedom. But Israel is the one who keeps making Hamas the dominant Palestinian political party, in order to use them as an excuse to continue their genocide.

Stop pretending to know what the left thinks when you’ve clearly never actually spoken to their members.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

If something a person says that wasn't personally directed at you doesn't actually apply to you, they probably weren't talking about you.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Sure and my racist uncle's joke about drowning a random person totally isn't just his black guy joke barely concealed.

The narrative has for months been that anyone who is critical of Israel is Pro Hamas. And now you want us to believe that's changed when someone is defending the most breathtakingly xenophobic bill in modern times?

Lmao. No.