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Rule of law declining across EU, report warns
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I don't disagree. But I would like to make a distinction. Authoritarian populists should never be given any credence. Left or right. When it comes to capitalism, liberals are about as far right as you can get in general. But they can be reasoned with pretty frequently. And are not constantly maliciously trying to hurt people. Their policies tend to hurt a lot of people because of biases built into the systems. But it's not something they try hard to do.
Conversely, fascists and leninists are a threat to everyone including themselves. And as you said, should be given no quarter. But are given far too much attention and tolerance.
Ah yes, all those Leninist politicians that are showing up all over Europe and winning elections....
Liberals hurt plenty of people. They enact austerity that have hurt many poor people. They care more about money than human well-being. They often vote for sanctions that do nothing but hurt regular people. And historically have always sided with fascists when it comes down to it.
Currently it's fascists. But leninists absolutely marched across Europe and Asia in the mid 20th century. Slaughtering and forcefully annexing countries against their will. Imprisoning and murdering people simply for disagreeing with "the party". It's literally the one genuine accurate criticism capitalists have had of leninists. Even if it is somewhat hypocritical.
I'm not going to disagree with your characterization of liberals. Except to point out that that doesn't represent all or most of them. It definitely does represent some. But also ironically represents a large portion of those in power in Leninist political structures. Because it's not the non-authoritarian liberals that are the problem. Just like it's not the non-authoritarian non-leninist Marxist like myself, who aren the problem. It's those who support or make excuses for authoritarians that are a threat to everyone. Along with the authoritarians of course. Regardless of whether they are technically left or right.
Criticizing liberals and fascists while supporting Lenin, Engles, and those that follow their diseased ideology. Is hypocritical.
Yes! Thank you for making the distinction between authoritarian and left wing politics. Folks hate Nazis and Tankies because of the authoritarian ideology. No one wants others running their lives and the extreme political spectra are filled with assholes ruining the lives of others en masse.
Tankies are not leftists. They are Nazis with worse economics.
I disagree with your last sentence. If there's one thing they remotely got close to right on. It was economics. However, let me frame it this way. Which ever economic system you support, it shouldn't be forced at tank point or threat of gulag. Or forced by a wealthy foreign power either militarily, or via economic embargo. They should be allowed to compete. Something that's never really been allowed.
That said, for all the problems with the USSR for instance, they had great economic success. For a time becoming a center of research, industrialization, and technological progress. China has had similar things that could be said. That said, it doesn't excuse the oppression and violence against people they've committed. Just like it doesn't excuse the violence and oppression of the capitalists either.