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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

"Full rich webpages" on a 2007 iPhone meant bare HTML and a kilobyte of Javascript. Anything fancy would be in Flash because JS was slow as balls, and the iPhone never ran Flash.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

the iPhone never ran Flash.

Ruffle has (recently, for me) entered the chat.

Not that this negates the performance concerns, but just that Flash on iPhone is becoming a possibility.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

If we're counting now and into the future, the EU has coerced them to finally tolerate other browsers.

... not that I'm aware of any current browser with Flash support.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 1 points 8 months ago

Ruffle gives it support, no EU good-intention-poor-implementation regulation required. The demo link I shared above works with any browser, built in Safari included.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Oh I know, I was just suggesting more-direct support was possible. Genuine stupid coverage for a long-dead plugin.

Maybe someone could coerce Dolphin browser from Android to iOS.

I do have to say, Ruffle is the most boringly-named of the "let's do Flash in JS" projects. The first big one was named Gordon, in an obvious pun. The follow-up was named Shumway, in a less-obvious pun. About ALF.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 1 points 8 months ago

Speaking of historical Flash support, I actually forgot the old Puffin Browser which I’ve bought back in 2011, and apparently is still around. They run a browser on their server and you get a VNC-like client to access that instance. So by no means native support, but it was super functional at least back in the days — haven’t used it for years since I stopped buying iPads as my use case are better suited for the Mac and the iPhone instead.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

That is dedication I absolutely would not match. I bought Android for software freedom and mmmight have watched some pivotal Homestuck animations on a Droid 2 Global.

Even now, please don't give Apple money.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 1 points 8 months ago

Everyone has different preferences and priorities.

I just spent an obscene amount of time yesterday and overnight, losing sleep in the process, in order to get our media server back online and running after what was supposed to be an automated system update that botched the entire storage array… all that just so the little one can listen to the music we’ve vetted and she likes.

That is an experience I do not want on my phone and computer. My personal computer and phone are mission critical — as in, they’re what’s enabling me to make money and put food on the table. I cannot tolerate downtimes. The fact that everything I need just works together, bundled with a much higher degree focus on privacy than everything else on the market makes it a no brainer for me to just keep buying Apple devices one after another.

Some people may prefer the tinkering and tweaks and customizations. Others might want to play emulated games or triple A titles. Not me. Give me the walled garden and lock it down. I don’t want anything that could make it remotely unstable.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

That is an experience I do not want on my phone and computer.

Instead, a total absence of control. If something borks up you're just hosed. Possibly no way to do a thing in the first place, to later get borked.

As I've told many defenders of Apple's downright criminal restrictions - Android works the same way, if you don't fuck with it. My first phone? Absolutely I ran custom ROMs and installed whatever from wherever. My current phone is stock. Most people's are.

The ability to fuck with things is crucial. Actually fucking with things is optional.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 1 points 8 months ago

Days since last issue for me on Apple products: 15 years -- I started Apple product pairing about 15 years ago with the iPhone 3G and the unibody aluminum MacBook a little earlier, and I don't have memory of them doing me wrong.

Compare that to my servers: Days since last issue: ~~1~~ 0 day -- I started using Linux close to 25 years ago, starting with RedHat Linux 6 where GNOME was the big hot new thing. While I wouldn't consider myself an expert, a relatively benign system update shouldn't have botched the system for me the way it had yesterday. This was not the first time, and it will not be the last time... and how do I know it won't be the last? My other server, hosted in the cloud by Oracle in the San Jose region lost power, went offline for several hours; the block storage attached to the VM did not get unmounted properly, which in turn did not get remounted properly, so when the system came back, it couldn't get everything back up and running automatically, and required some manual intervention before I can get back on my Lemmy instance.

For whatever reason, this just seems to be par for the course on anything that's not locked down. Yet, the scary boogieman of "if it something borks you're hosed" seems to be the norm. Track record kind of speaks for itself here, at least for me, this model works. I'm more than happy with the security and stability on things that I use to keep the lights on.

PS: Also getting fond memories of deploying Deep Freeze on Windows 3.11 Workstations so users cannot mess it up. Before doing that, going through to re-image problematic machines was a daily job, after locking everything down so the systems cannot be messed with? Monthly, just so we can deploy updates. Recurring theme much?

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