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I'd be furious too, having such incompetent, out-of-touch advisors. This article alludes to it but others have gone more in-depth: Biden's advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging: the American people just haven't heard how great it is. Telling people struggling to pay their bills every month that they're better off than they were four years ago isn't messaging, it's gaslighting. His advisors should be telling him the truth, that the economy is only good on paper, that while the "haves" are living large the "have nots" are not only struggling, their ranks are quickly growing. Don't get me wrong, anyone who votes for Trump because they think he'll do better at economic issues is a moron, but history shows that a lot of people are going to go this route come November at the current pace of things. And Biden's advisors are just as moronic if they don't understand this.
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This guy thinks.
I thought you were going to say that history shows a lot of people are morons.
I mean, history does show this too.
I would imagine that the people who voted for Trump were angry.
Some of that angry is genuine (Washington only represents the rich, lack of social mobility, wealth inequality, etc.) Here comes someone who doesn't talk like a politician, promises action that resonates with their anger (punish China for taking manufacturing jobs, force companies to operate in America, rip up NAFTA, put America first economically, etc.) Trump is extremely charismatic. Voting for Trump becomes a political action to send a message to everyone. A big ol' fuck you message.
Then are those who voted for Trump because they saw in Trump the same racist, xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ, and hate that they have.
After four years of nothing except chaos and hate filled policies. People wanted go back to the status quo of government not being in chaos and being run competently. What people didn't want was return to economic status quo.
While Biden's government has be run competently and hasn't been a four years of a soap opera drama. The Democrats have mostly upheld the economic status quo. Any changes made to the status quo will arguably take time to manifest. It's hard to be optimistic that the situation will get better when we're going through a cost of living crisis, home ownership is dead, social mobility will never happen, etc. People expected changes to happen. Those changes ain't happening now. If anything people have gotten angrier.
I know Lemmy isn't a major bellwether of the internet. We're outliers. However being the outliers means we can be signs of things to come. Post anything about the rich and there will be comments about guillotines. If the more radical people are saying that, chances are more moderate people are thinking it.
People are once again in the position of do we vote for the candidate who mostly upholds the status quo while making changes that takes time to feel or the candidate is a big, giant fuck you to the Democrats and knows how people to play on people's anger.
If the Democrats had did massive, radical change there's a chance the situation would be different. Messaging isn't going to fix this. People's feelings do not care about facts.
Telling me facts about wages are going up, inflation is going down, etc. Doesn't mean diddly squat when I feel like I will never retire, own a home, take vacations, etc.
No wonder he's frustrated.
That's literally fucking true though, all the data proves it, surveys even show that individuals consider their own circumstances to be better than in previous years but they assume they're the exception and that the economy is shit.
No wonder he's frustrated.
The economy is literally just paper.
People's ability to buy bread is not just a paper problem. Prices have gone up across the board, out of step with earnings, housing is beyond unaffordable to the point that multiple generations are having to accept that they will never own a home. Student debt has been through the roof for years, and now credit card debt is soaring.This economy is not even close to healthy for the median American.
All of that is quantifiable on paper.
Really all the data proves it? What is the relationship between minimum wage and average rental cost now and four years ago?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/biden-economy-voters-polling-numbers-covid-recovery.html
I asked about minimum wage not about cherry picked stats.
Asking specifically about minimum wage and only about minimum wage is cherry picking stats.
Tell me that you never had to pay rent on minimum wage without telling me.
I know I read somewhere that the GOP gets a boost during economic downturns because they are perceived as willing to make cuts required to fix things.
Yes I am well aware, person angrily typing a reply, that the perception isn't accurate.