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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by sqgl@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

DJ Grothe on Facebook writes:

The Economist just did a big cover article on how great the U.S. economy is. Here is an unpaywalled version.

Real GDP is +8% vs. 2019, making “America...the only big economy that is back to its pre-pandemic growth trend.” This is compared to just 3% for Europe, 1% for Japan, and 0% for Britain.

Economists across the political spectrum (excepting the goofy ideological ones that feature on Fox News a lot) give most of the credit to the three big laws passed by Biden: the huge Infrastructure bill (that Trump always promised but never delivered), the Inflation Reduction Act, and the CHIPs Act, which provide incentives to build stuff in the U.S. And of course they credit Biden’s American Rescue Plan, too.

Good policy matters. Time for some skeptical debunking of the economic doomerism.

Biden is getting more done for the people than any president since FDR:

A smaller percentage of Americans are uninsured now than ever in our history.

Child poverty is at historic lows, thanks to Biden's child tax credit in his American Rescue Plan.

Real wages are outpacing inflation for all socioeconomic quintiles.

The cost of living is actually going down (don't believe the doomers)

America is energy independent for the first time in 40 years, and has been a net exporter of oil every year since 2020.

The cost of a gallon of gasoline nationwide on average is around three dollars a gallon, which is just a little higher than it was under Trump, and actually lower than it was under George W Bush and Obama.

Natural gas prices are at 10-year lows.

Wealth inequality under Biden is narrowing for the first time in almost 20 years..

The wealth of the lower two socioeconomic quintiles have seen their average household wealth increase by over 50% just since 2019.

The stock market is on an historic bull run.

Violent crime, including the murder rate, is lower than it’s been in nearly 50 years.

There is actually less illegal immigration under Biden than under Trump, believe it or not. (There are many more illegal border crossings now than under Trump, sadly, but there’s an order of magnitude more detentions and deportations under Biden than there were under Trump, which actually results in less illegal immigration now than under Trump. Immigration graph

Unemployment is at almost a 50-year low, and it’s never been lower than it is right now for Black Americans and Latinos.

Average debt-to-income ratios for American families are falling, and bankruptcies are at historic lows.

The average American household has cash savings equal to five weeks of income, which is the highest ever on record, and it’s also the record highest for the bottom half of the population by income. Savings graph

Homicide rates have decreased since Trump.Homicide graph

Things certainly aren't perfect, but they are much better for all socioeconomic quintiles than they were in 2019, and much better by many measures than they've been in many many decades.

Thanks Biden!

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[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 33 points 8 months ago

The problem is, this is not going to the working class. The rich are comfortable again and the poor are still poor. We can do better.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Economist article says: "Average weekly earnings for the country’s workers reached nearly $1,170 in October, up by around 3% in real terms since the end of 2019."

I dunno what workers means here.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wonder why they use average instead of median, which would be more meaningful. You can make the average go up just by raising the wages of the top 1% workers.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

Wonder why they use average instead of mean

I think you may mean median, not mean, if you see what I mean.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

Average could be either mean or median or mode or some other esoteric measure

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

Yep, you're right, I meant median.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Theoretically yes, but that's not what happened. Also not sure if average in op's case is referring to mean or median, the word average could refer to either. But mean and median are close in this case. Median wage growth statistics are readily available, here's median:

https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker

And if you dig into data more, you'll find real wage growth (wage growth minus inflation) was strongest in the lowest income bracket, not the highest.

https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2022/

That's not to say that just a couple years of higher wage growth in low income brackets will erase the US's enormous long-standing problem with income inequality. And the top 10% have still been doing better than upper middle class with recent wage growth.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Most Americans have no clue what "median" means but do know what average means, sort of.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

So you're saying they know what the mean means!

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 8 months ago

It means rent went up around 3%.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Workers, in this case, means people that work for pay to live. See, payroll gets reported and as such the Gov. has numbers to back up their claims. You've got angry "what about me!" to back up yours.

[-] sonori@beehaw.org 15 points 8 months ago

We’ve seen the largest real wage growth among the lowest income workers since the 60s. Up until recently the real wage gain was actually entirely seen in essential, unionized, and low income workers, with the rich actually seeing real wage decreases in that time. Higher inflation is obviously going to be a lot bigger problem for owners than workers. It’s just the trend has a really long way to go to make for half a century of falling.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 8 months ago

I'm happy to hear it. We can and should still do better; I'm hoping with a second term President Biden and the Democrats in congress can further improve things for us. Nothing will happen if we don't protest, vote, and unionize though! We need to organize and keep applying pressure to our elected officials, relentlessly.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

Wealth inequality is reduced for the first time in 20 years.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 8 months ago

I'm a Biden voter, I will be voting for him in the general, but I want to hold him to a higher standard because he claims to be the working man's president. Hopefully with a second term more can be accomplished.

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