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How much of the suffering was actually caused by someone physically giving you trouble, throwing you in jail or stopping you from doing something, and how much by emotions of fear that you have inside you?
i know plenty of people who ended up in jail, but never me.
are we really measuring trauma here? shouldn't we be fighting oppression together?
I just think in the grand scale of things, a state doing limited surveillance is fairly low on the injustice ladder. I'm generally against it, but I think more of it is done by google and facebook than the FBI.
I'm also not a believer that all oppression can/should be eliminated, as some will always be necessary for self-defense purposes. It's not like countries invading other countries doesn't happen, and we do need ways to fight back, which would necessitate some limited intelligence-gathering capabilities.
That said, we do need to repeal the current surveillance laws, they went too far. It's not limited strongly enough.
>I’m also not a believer that all oppression can/should be eliminated
... i'm an anarchist. so that's like my raison d'être
I think anarchists are important too. It's our plurality of positions that makes us free. And stronger/more innovative in the idea space.
I think the whole surveillance state thing is less about throwing individuals in jail, and more about controlling mass discourse.
For example how social divisors like gender, age, sexuality and whatever else are amplified while criticism and action against the people cooking us alive is buried. You don't need black chaikas and fear if you have soft power and constant outrage. TBH I think that's why Trump got elected, a bunch of people went "fuck this shit" and either went and voted for Trump to "stick it to the man", or just didn't go to vote at all.
How else is a state owned healthcare system deemed radical and hospitals being owned by private equity normal if it's not those few profiting off the death and suffering setting what's normal?
Yeah, but we're going to have to regulate our massive companies to address that. Outrage is very profitable. Fear sells, just like sex.