EU moving towards total monetary surveillance and banning all anonymous payments (lemmy.ml)

submitted 8 months ago by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/monero@monero.town

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/13481220

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[-] tusker@monero.town 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"your MEP" is paid for and/or compromised and will do anything they are told by their owners, don't waste your time. Put your energy towards building a world they cannot control with fake counterfeit money and threats of violence.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Lol, how do you build a world?

[-] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 8 months ago

@lud @tusker by changing the governance. More specifically: decentralizing the governance.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And how do you propose we do that?

Maybe we could have separate small territories with their own laws. We could call them countries.

[-] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 8 months ago

@lud decentralizing the financial system is basically the first step. Then slowly you decentralize most of the social system components: education, sick care, transport, food chain etc. At the end you replace the political law with natural law. Everything will be based on rights.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah... Good luck, I guess.

Personally that seems like Anarchy.

[-] mariob@liberdon.com 1 points 8 months ago

@lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else.

Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

So it's like a normal government...

The reason we have politicians is because normal people don't have the time to spend all their time worrying about politics and decisions. So we delegate the power to a smaller group of people.

Some countries delegate more and some less power (like with direct democracy like Switzerland has) but it's essentially the same.

[-] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 8 months ago

@lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government.

The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed.