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[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Why doesn’t it seem like a false-flag? Who could benefit from this, politically, more than Putin? Remember the Reichstag fire.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Wut. He’s already in power and just won another six year term.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

He’s been in power for a long time but he’s run an authoritarian regime. He relies on the suppression of a depoliticized majority of the population. The idea here is that he wants to make a move towards totalitarianism: mobilize more of the population towards the war effort. Squeeze those depoliticized folks to force them to declare their loyalty to the regime.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes - but why did he let it happen? I'm thinking more that Putin willfully neglected any action against it because (reason). Maybe he wants to mobilise more and wants people to feel like they're under attack?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I don’t know, why did Bush let 9/11 happen? This is wild speculation one day after the attack with practically no reliable information to work with. The English speaking world has decided that Putin is a cartoon villian or the new Hitler, so sinister conspiracy theories abound.

[-] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Putin is a real villain, and it's not far fetched. I don't know what 9/11 has to do with this though

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

why did he let it happen?

The analogy isn’t hard to follow: If Bush had some intelligence before the 9/11 attacks, then why did he let it happen? Was he willfully negligent as well? After all, was he not a real villain? Post-9/11 wars have contributed to some 4.5 million deaths, report suggests

[-] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

It's 100% irrelevant to whether or not the Putin did

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s relevant to your conspiracy theorizing. Maybe analogies aren’t for everyone.

[-] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

No, it isn't. We know they were informed well on in time before, and now we can wonder why they didn't act on it, and why Putin wants to blame Ukraine for it.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nevermind the Reichstag, remember that the FSB and likely Putin were behind the bombing of four apartment blocks in Russia in 1999 that killed over 300 people. It got blamed on the Chechens and was used to justify the invasion of Chechnya.

This wouldn't even be the bloodiest false flag Putin has done in his career.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Ah yes killing your own people surely benefits you politically. What a dumbass.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

It does if you can convince them that only giving you more power will keep them safe, unfortunately

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

One minor detail, his legitimacy was not waivering at all. Its as stupid as claiming that bush did 9/11.

[-] Skua@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago

9/11 did give Bush a pretext for the Patriot Act though, and his own presidency was not in question at the time.

To be clear I don't think that Bush did 9/11 and don't know who did this shooting. Just pointing out that Putin absolutely can benefit from it politically.

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