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Though the Windows thing was really funny πŸ˜‚.

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[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not just every file deleted, every file written to disk as well (downloaded, extracted from an archive, whatever).

It's also how most AV software works, except Defender is slow AF.

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

also, defender is synchronous by default (e.g. nothing gets written until it gets scanned, and scanning parallelization is limited), and can only act asynchronously (aka write first, then queue check) on "trusted dev drives" (aka ReFS-based virtual vhdx partitions aimed at developers as a solution to horrible ntfs throughput, especially if defender is enabled)

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not true, it does get written before it gets scanned. In fact, it doesn't even always scan before the file is read by explorer (yes, it's the worst AV ever). It's easy to prove this, just extract FFF's WinRAR keygen and you'll see what I mean.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Huh. All that security, and yet there are still so many viruses capable of infecting windows.

[-] deur@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago

Huh.... all that immune system yet there are still so many viruses capable of infecting humans.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Humans are easy targets 😁... we've lived semi-isolated from nature at least the last few hundred years.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I thought it checks every file closed

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

No, it scans file headers when you do read/write operations on disk. Every AV works this way, except, as I said, Defender is slow AF.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I can't find talk I watched, but I found github issue it was based on.

Short version: Defender is triggered not on open, not on read or write, but on CloseHandle.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

CloseHandle of what? Read/write operations?

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