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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You seized on literally the only thing in my long-enough-to-be-tedious list that was an attempt instead of an outcome, and are trying to spin it into me giving him credit only for failures. I'm almost impressed.

The first two items in my list represented the successful outcome of his second attempt at something, after the first attempt was blocked, but those $144 billion and 40% reduction numbers are the outcome (after the initial much bigger attempt). Then comes the attempt at marijuana legalization. Every other item is simply the outcome.

I think you should get some sort of award for how vaguely plausible you make this argument sound, given the yawning gulf between it and what actually happened, and the fact that the evidence for it not happening the way you said is literally just right up there in the comments up above (not buried away somewhere in some government document that there could be legitimate debate about how to interpret.)

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You seized on literally the only thing in my long-enough-to-be-tedious list that was an attempt instead of an outcome

Well, if you're going to try to give him credit for shit he hasn't done, I'm gonna call you on it.

and are trying to spin it into me giving him credit only for failures.

Never said that. You're telling on yourself.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 7 months ago

Okay, fine. Let me try again.

You seized on literally the only thing in my long-enough-to-be-tedious list that was an attempt instead of an outcome, and are dealing with it as if giving him credit for that attempt was the only thing I'd done, instead of one attempt listed among a big group of demonstrated successes. I'm almost impressed.

The first two items in my list represented the successful outcome of his second attempt at something, after the first attempt was blocked, but those $144 billion and 40% reduction numbers are the outcome (after the initial much bigger attempt). Then comes the attempt at marijuana legalization. Every other item is simply the outcome.

I think you should get some sort of award for how vaguely plausible you make this argument sound, given the yawning gulf between it and what I actually said, and the fact that the evidence for it not happening the way you said is literally just right up there in the comments up above (not buried away somewhere in some government document that there could be legitimate debate about how to interpret.)

Happier with that?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

If you don't want me pointing out when you call a failure an accomplishment, all you need to do is not call a failure an accomplishment. If you feel entitled to me addressing every last word of your comment, you should consider that I'm not here to fulfill your unreasonable sense of entitlement.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Okay, fine. Let me try again.

You can't meaningfully respond to the substance, so you're seizing on weird little trivialities -- out of this list of billion- and trillion-dollar scale good things Biden did, one and only one of them was merely a good-faith attempt to do something good, and it didn't succeed! Dude sucks.

That's a very bad argument, and I feel like I've spent entirely too much time at this point explaining why that is. Happier with that?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I argued with what I took exception to.

If you don't want me saying that you're trying to pass off failure as success, I've already said how you can avoid that in the future.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 7 months ago

So you don't take exception to any of the rest of it?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, I just re-read it, and you were right: it was tedious.

But since you asked: I'm not great with the implication that asking the DEA to look into descheduling is an accomplishment, either. You did ignore what the other commenter said about democrats always managing to find the votes to bomb foreigners, but I figured you wanted to focus on what you took exception to, and not start a slapfight over every last word in someone's comment. I'm only saying this now because you asked, not out of any desire to provoke or indulge further combativeness.

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