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The monotheistic all powerful one.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's so many good ones, and I'd probably say Russel's (what's in the set of every set that doesn't contain itself?), but recently the unexpected hanging has come up a couple times. That one is all about how theories or rules can break if they become contingent on how an observer is thinking about them (including state of knowledge of the situation).

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Russel's paradox is so wild. Set theory was supposed to unify mathematics and logic into a single coherent system and Russel was like actually, no.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And honestly, the story isn't over. We brought axioms into set theory after that, but Godel showed that that was never going to be a cure-all, and people like Woodin later on have added to the pile. At this point, you can have two totally reasonable axioms which don't just prove different things, but actually can prove opposite answers about the same thing.

I think it's fair to say even platonism is starting to look a bit threatened at this point, and there's people (the Sydney school) who want to go back to looking at math as descriptive rather than ideal. Finitism is also worth a look, I think, and avoids things like Russel's paradox easily, although interestingly MIP*=RE implies that there may be directly measurable infinities in quantum mechanics.

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