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FAQ
Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?
A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.
no, but that's not what i said, either.
…and you think in a FPTP system voting for someone who is very unlikely to win isn’t effectively the same as voting “whatever”? What’s the difference?
the difference is that voting "whatever" is the same as not voting. by contrast, voting for a candidate is voting... for that candidate.
So the difference is for one you have to waste your time to achieve the same result?
it's not the same result. in one scenario, the vote total doesn't change. in the other, a candidate gets one more vote.
So you don’t care who wins but want to increase voter turnout?
of course i care who wins. i want my candidate to win. that's why i vote for them.
And you already admitted it’s unlikely that’s going to happen.
I’d also like to become a millionaire, but that doesn’t mean spending all my money on slot machines makes sense.
it's the right thing to do. ends don't justify means.
You’re just letting perfect be the enemy of good. And while unfortunately “good” is not really that good, the alternative is way too dangerous to risk it over moral principles. It’s sad, but as long as FPTP stays in place the only correct choice is to vote for the “least bad” of the main two.
voting for bad people is bad. it's not that I'm letting perfect be the enemy of the good. im letting good be the enemy of bad.
I mean, do whatever you want, it’s clear you’re not going to change your mind. Just keep in mind that if Trump wins, you also contributed to that.
no, i didn't. biden won in 2020 and i voted for howie. am i allowed to take credit for that? it makes no sense.
You contributed to that by not voting for Trump, yes. That’s FPTP.
It absolutely makes no sense but it’s the system in place and there’s pretty much nothing people can do about it short of overthrowing the government.