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There are some vitamins we can only get from meats. Something tells me that industrial processes to make those vitamins into pills isn't exactly helping the planet either.
I've seen too many vegan body builders and MMA fighters to believe you can't get full nutrition from a vegan diet
Is it a diet of organic vegan food without any supplements? Or are they eating nutritionally enriched foods and taking vitamin supplements?
There's nothing wrong with the latter, and I should hope every vegan does the latter. A vegan diet without any of that will leave you deficient in some nutrients.
Meat is not a magical product; you can get all nutrients without eating animals. Except for B12, as it is produced by bacteria living in dirty environments. We get too little of it because of our sanitized way of living. However, we also don't get cholera anymore, which is a good development! Your B12 is added to animal feed, so you're taking the pill through the cow instead of directly. The twin study, which you can also watch on Netflix, shows that besides the nutrients in meat consumption, you also intake a lot of harmful substances into your body. Animal fats clog your arteries, antibiotics, fecal residues, growth hormones, moreover, red meat is classified as carcinogenic by the WHO.
There's still other vitamins that are present in higher quantities in meat versus plants, but I do see your point. And with where we are with food technology today, we can make it a moot point by enriching vegetables anyway.
The first priority I think should be making it more affordable and cheaper to buy these foods, and government subsidies sound like a good way to do that. Also, reducing red meat consumption and replacing it with chicken goes a long way too.
Either way, I appreciate how knowledgeable you are on this. You've clearly done your research!
Thanks! Beans, lentils and soy are superfoods and they are super cheap. If we'd eat a cup of these legumes a day, we (and our soil, climate, environment) would be much healthier. It's so easy as well, just replace ground meat with lentils, chicken with chickpeas, pork with soy shreds. My health insurance started promoting this as the planetary health diet, times are changing.
Give me one non-vegan bodybuilder that doesn't do any form of supplements (should we incl. B12 injections for livestock?).
It sounds like you're educated on the subject by big meat, you might want to question that.