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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

You can have different genitalia than your chromosomes would indicate. Is it that hard to believe that you could have a different brain structure as well? I do believe that permanent changes should only happen once the individual is in their mid 20s, but at the end of the day I don't want governments making decisions on what others can and cannot do to their own bodies. Trans (and LGBTQ) people have been documented in history since language was first written, but somehow when the science is more definitive on these matters people become more phobic to reality.

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 7 months ago

Agreed except the "mid 20s" thing, I wouldn't have survived that long.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

I agree that it's a decision that should be made by the individual and their support network. (family, friends, doctors and psychologists.) And I'm behind those that need to change to salvage their mental health. I had to get lasik when I was 19 because I was having vision induced migraines. The recommendation is to wait until late to mid 20s to get the surgery, but my doctor knew I couldn't wait until my body was fully "developed". Your situation is far more complicated but I understand. It's none of my business what you do with your body! End of story ʘ‿ʘ

[-] tubaruco@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

homosexuality has been seen in nature as well, we only dont see trans animals because gender is itself something only humans have

also, it doesnt matter what the body, dna or whatever says your gender 'should be'. the gender is defined by how a person thinks and nothing can change that

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Evolutionary biologist here. I’d argue that, in the same sense as we see homosexuality in animals, we see trans animals.

Some animals physically transition - there are fish that will change their physical gender based on the current gender mixture in their local environment. Some behaviorally transition, with males taking on female roles. Sometimes a whole species is trans - like the female hyena developing male appearing genitalia.

Sexual orientation in the animal kingdom is not strictly analogous to that among humans (which has a much stronger social construct), and the same is true of gender (that is, human gender is a social construct). Because the range of adaptations are so diverse and so widespread, I’m very sure of the fact that they have different causes from each other as well as from humans, but the same is true of animal sexuality.