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We need a Federated FOSS Discord alternative built to work with the activity pub protocol.
...Matrix...?
Honestly, matrix is incredibly user unfriendly. It needs to stop being held up as an option for these sort of things.
Even my 60 year old mother who needs tech support for her iPhone every other month had no problems setting up a matrix account when I asked her to use it instead of sms.
What are your issues Matrix?
How is it user unfriendly? The default client Element looks exactly if not better than discord and there's servers where you don't even need to verify your mail to register.
We don't need a completely decentralized system. Matrix is not efficient, its bloated and overly complicated compared to what you could have. A federated system with minimal overhead would be nice. This is the reason I went with XMPP over matrix for self hosting a discord alternative. I just wish we had something like XMPP that interacted with activitypub.
Matrix isn't decentralized, it is federated just like lemmy or mastodon, except it is its own protocol.
xmpp is still stuck in the early 2000 and even the ecosystem of apps around it are stuck in the 2000.
How is it not decentralized?
decentralized is peer-to-peer while federated is server-to-server
revolt.chat?
not federated, no app access if you run your own silo, etc
Unfortunately, ActivityPub isn’t really designed to scale in a way that a Discord alternative would require. The intended behavior for federation isn’t clear either. Matrix is already a mature federated chat server with dozens of clients including an official one. Building a Discord clone client for it would be a lot easier than rolling a whole new custom server.
The what?