Fair enough I’d forgotten hocking hills. Went there a few times as a kid. When I think of southeastern Ohio I think of the little hills of Appalachia. But it always has felt like the prelude to the big beauty that appears once you get past the state’s borders. Cincy has an odd beauty to it.

I can be a bit harsh towards southeastern Ohio as I’ve known more than my fair share of folks who’ve fled it. So in my mind it’s a place of horror stories more than beauty.

But yeah you’re absolutely right about the flats. My family is from there and I swear to shit it’s just the fucking worst. I grew up in the suburban stretch of the southwest and will say that that’s a different kind of the Ohio shithole.