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Diplomats say Putin’s brutalisation of Ukraine has brought back darkest memories of occupation under Stalin

Nato must be ready for Russia launching an “existential” war against the Baltic states “masked by a blizzard of disinformation”, ambassadors from the three countries have warned.

Writing exclusively for The Sunday Telegraph, the top diplomats to the UK from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania said that Russia could “pivot quickly” from Ukraine to invade the Baltic.

And they said that Vladimir Putin’s brutalisation of Ukraine is evoking the three countries’ “darkest memories” of occupation under Stalin.

The Estonian ambassador Viljar Lubi, the Latvian ambassador Ivita Burmistre, and Lithuania’s charge d’affaire Lina Zigmantaite, wrote the joint article to mark Friday’s 20 year anniversary of their countries acceding to Nato.

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[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I don't think this is exactly right. For the longest time Republicans were the same way, dangling a carrot of doing something to get votes but never actually doing it. I think Donald Trump has emboldened a lot of people to run for office that don't understand that you don't actually give the base what they want cause it makes you deeply unpopular with everyone else.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You need to listen to what MAGA and rightwingers say when they are critical of the establishment. You don't have to agree with them and you shouldn't, but you should try to understand why they make the decisions they make and come to the conclusions that they do.

The MAGA movement was able to fuckold the Republican establishment into doing the will of their voters. It just happens that the will of their voters is vile and wrong, and basically orchestrated through the distribution of rightwing media. It went from outside radicals to business as usual in the Republican party in one election cycle.

Trump pushed for every single one of his campaign tent poles. He didn't get them all, but he pushed damned hard for almost all of them, and got or made progress on many of them. You should hate him. You should hate those policy positioned he pursued. But he did his voters right in that they voted for a person who would go after those policy positions, and he went after those policy position. These anti-human policies are what right wing voters want.

Here are is a video interviewing rightwingers. Pay attention to how they frame things, how they are structuring their arguments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42DboOj-Xs

and a response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoP8PjWwn30

And what you are describing, Republicans in the business of dangling carrots; that was the republican party for decades. Its also been the business of Democrats for decades. The difference is that the MAGA movement was able to force the Republicans into action on their polices. The progressive movement has been unable to do so with Democrats.

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[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What they're saying is crazy bullshit fed to them by a propaganda machine

Trump abandoned like 2/3 of his campaign points and hyped up the ones that mattered to him personally.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I generally agree with you, I think the one part I disagree on is the why Republicans go along with this. Sure some of it is because of the purity testing kind of stuff but a lot of it is just because the Republicans for the longest time have paid lip service to these issues but never done anything about them. Like with abortion for example. But then you have someone like Donald Trump come in who is just like, well why don't we do all these crazy things. And that is what emboldened more people like him, with no experience in politics and no understanding that you can't actually give the base the way out there stuff without alienating the general public, to run for election and start winning in very red areas. So it's less of a pressure on the party from the outside to start following this new MAGA movement (although that does exist too) and more of an internal transformation of the party under Trump.

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