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[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

But also, isn't fascism in the rise, in Indonesia?

Just heard something mentioned about that from someone in a live, but didn't follow through. Did you see anything about it in your daily research?

[-] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Fascism or not, I still would support decolonization. Regardless of if the Hindutva government is in power, India's resources and labor deserves to be its own. Same with Indonesia, no matter how ugly its politics are, etc. And the root of all this evil is always, always the west. Who instigated Islamists and the military junta to overthrow Sukarno and genocide millions? The US, hell, their alphabet agencies and corporations even gave the army hitlists to get them started. Whose divide-and-conquer policies led to such brutal Hindu-Muslim divisions on the Indian subcontinent, and such instability to fan the flames? The Brits and then the US.

Supporting Indonesia in its resource sovereignty is helping create a foundation from which better can emerge in the country- and it is supporting a movement across all the global south at that. And it is striking the truest, worst fascists, the root of all fascists.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Fair take, thanks.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I don't really see too much about Indonesia, but I mostly get the impression that the west is freaking out because Indonesia is increasingly pursuing independent policy. Ben Norton just did video discussing this recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlAN5-Lk0hw

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think he's referring to the Suhuarto-aligned president, that is, Prabowo Subianto....

He apparently had some role in the East Timor genocide....

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I mean politics in Indonesia haven't been good since US overthrew the communists there, and pretty much anybody in power will necessarily have links to the previous governments.

Joko Widodo was good tho... Wished we'd had more ppl like him

[-] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I see this take a lot here. He was popular with the middle class, but he was essentially a neoliberal who also happened to be a competent administrator. His administration was responsible for massive displacement through bulldozing of slums, and did nothing to help the West Papuans fighting a Suharto-era ecocidal extractive regime on their land.

I can't blame you for the fact that he was complicit in the West Papuan conflict (specifically in blocking its internet access while it's being bombed by Indonesian armed forces) but displacing people in slums, I mean, I don't remember him directly complicit in that necessarily... if anything, he did provide low-income housing?

[-] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Different topic, but Jokowi has been big on palm oil exports to the detriment of the environment. He also passed anti-worker and anti-Marxist legislation.

I regret everything...

I should've learned from Lula...

[-] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

No worries! I only know about Indonesia because I have leftist friends from there.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I'll watch it, thanks!

[-] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

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