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Are they even under 10nm?
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That's assuming they really do have no choice but to do all fabrication domestically.
16nm from what I can tell on their Baikal-S
I'm only seeing 16nm from the units produced by TSMC. Do you have something current that shows the domestically produced ones are also of that gate width?
Good call out, I totally failed to recognize that any chip made on a TSMC process isn’t going to be made in Russia. I’m trying to figure out what domestic fabs exist in Russia; from what I can tell Baikal is fabless. I have found an article that states Russia is aiming for a 28nm domestic process by 2027, so I guess their best chips at this point are likely in the 40+nm range. I’m going to keep reading though because I’m definitely curious about this.
Edit: this article paints an even worse picture for them. One of their fabs, Angstrom, had to disclose in bankruptcy proceedings 6 years ago that they hadn’t developed a process better than 250nm dispite licensing Intel 90nm process tech back in 2012.
From what I can tell, Mikron has been able to get a domestic 90nm process and possibly a 65nm process going in their domestic fabs. Sounds like they’re 20 years behind, yikes
Do they need to license intel tech? Can’t they just steal it? I assume no one will enforce that.
Well that licensing deal was 12 years ago. Things were very different before Russia invaded Crimea. Even if they had the ability to design smaller process chips, the machines needed to manufacture those processes are highly advanced and not manufactured in Russia.
All this reminds me of when China was finally able to mass-produce roller-ball pen tips...in 2017! They had been importing them the whole time. In 2012, one of the CCP big wigs threw a fit that in-house roller-ball tips were shit, so the CCP ran R&D for five years to finally introduce it in 2017