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With discord planning to show ads, how can the fediverse/lemmy benefit from another proprietary program making itself worse? (Like it was with reddit) (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by testeronious@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Do you think that the fediverse has something to gain with the enshitfication of discord? Are there voice chat programs in the fediverse that can benefit from it?

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[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago

This will be an unpopular opinion here, but Discord is worth paying for and I do. Obviously, everyone's usage will differ, but I use it for video and voice chat for several hours a week and I can count on one hand the number of hours that have been disrupted by discord service outage. That kind of value is worth paying for imho.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 11 points 7 months ago

I am pretty sure that you can get a dozen of commercial XMPP providers who will offer the same quality of service, but won't cancel your account if you dare to use a "non-official" client

The problem with Discord is not that it's paid, the problem that is closed and creates a walled garden.

[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

But XMPP doesnt have any gaming focused features, no screensharing iirc, no group calls.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Xmpp is by design, an extensible protocol. There just doesn't seem to be any motivation to develop for it.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 7 months ago

I actually did subscribe for it initially when nitro first became available, but they made so many shitty decisions that they no longer deserved my money.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

What decisions have impacted your ability to use the service? I'm not keen on all of the choices they've made, but they also don't negatively impact the way that discord serves me.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There's been a lot of little things over the years, adding clutter and moving buttons around for no apparent reason. The usability is still pretty good overall, I avoid the community side mostly anyway nowadays and just use it to speak with friends. Most notably recently with the mobile app change, god that thing is the perfect example of shitty UX, luckily the old APKs still work.
I'd love people to move on to a more privacy respecting option, but getting people to move is an almost impossible task and the options arent all that great at the moment.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago

I didn't mind the mobile UI update, it had some kinks at first that I mostly think have been worked out. So some of these kinds of things will just be difference of taste.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't think having to swap sections on the app to use server and use messages will ever be a good change, the update added a lot of extra steps to find information. The original app worked like their desktop app, so it's natural to use either, whereas now it's completely different, crazy what was going through their heads with it (well money, trying to sell cosmetics).

But if you don't mind it, that's fair.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I support your position in principle, but canceled my own nitro when they did the android app redesign. It went from really snappy (respecting system animation scale settings) to completely ignoring them. It feels like molasses compared to every other phone app that operates at the system set 0.25 animation scale.

They also completely broke foldable support, and if your device changes aspect ratios inside a chat, you have to restart your client to get it to behave correctly again.

The enshittification is real and I am voting with my wallet.