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The wierdest part is all the other Americans telling me I have to go out and vote for genocide because the other guy might be able to genocide too. Its like my countrymen have one shared braincell and they borrowed it from CNN.
The other guy will dismantle democracy while doing a genocide. So yeah, short of overthrowing the government, voting for a genocidal fossil is the best we got.
Im not interested in what genocide supporters are going to vote for thanks for the input though.
Enjoy living in your fantasy world while the rest of us deal with reality.
If dealing with reality means supporting genocide, I'll stay in the fantasy. Enjoy being a genicide apologist.
And you're going to bravely not vote and let fascism grow in America, you fascist supporter. Wow look I can do it too.
Who said I wasn't voting? In fact I recall explicitly saying somewhere in this comment chain how I was voting.
I assume what you said means you're voting third party, and that's materially indistinct from not voting.
Considering there's more than one race on a ballot and ballot initiatives, only an idiot would think that's the same as not voting.
~~might be able to genocide too~~ will genocide even harder and louder
Fixed that for you. Vote for who you want, but don't pretend that there's any question about Trump's stance on the issue. He's publicly called for the final solution to be applied to Palestinians, and people in his party are telling their supporters that they think Gaza should be nuked like Nagasaki.
If Trump narrowly wins the election and the Palestinians suffer even more, wouldn't you feel the slightest bit guilty for staying home?
Do you want the government to commit genocide or do you want to government to commit genocide but also to some of the American people? Shit sucks either way but I can't vote for someone who might send members of my family to camps.
And your fear of maybe is why things will never change.
Fuck it, at this point we deserve another trump presidency.
The question isn't Trumps stance the question is will the Democrats have enough votes to throw a wrench in it. Same way it worked with immigration. There been little changes in border policy, agencies, and agents between presidencies yet the Democrats fought hard against Trumps policy, then stopped fighting when Biden was in charge. Seems to me democrats are unwilling to fight their own party on issues they would gladly fight the other party for. No one questions what Trump wants. We question his ability to do it. Like the border wall he couldn't build much of. Last I checked Bidens built more length of border wall than Trump has.
What do you mean might? Do you have any doubt? Does the fact him saying that he will and wants to do it faster not mean anything to you? I'm okay with you being angry at the general shittiness of the situation, but why lie about Trump's support of Israel's genocide? I don't understand why you're not honest about that. The Republican politicians are literally saying they want to Nuke Gaza, and you're sitting here saying you don't know if it's the same or worse?
The question isn't Trumps stance the question is will the Democrats have enough votes to throw a wrench in it. Same way it worked with immigration. There been little changes in border policy, agencies, and agents between presidencies yet the Democrats fought hard against Trumps policy, then stopped fighting when Biden was in charge. Seems to me democrats are unwilling to fight their own party on issues they would gladly fight the other party for. No one questions what Trump wants. We question his ability to do it. Like the border wall he couldn't build much of. Last I checked Bidens built more length of border wall than Trump has. The presidency isn't a dictatorship. And Bidens already used EOs to arm Israel so at worst he could do the same as Biden if someone actually stood up to him.
Well that's just the worst logic I've ever heard in my life. You care so much about stopping the genocide in Palestine that you prefer a person who wants to kill more Palestinians on the off chance the Democrats can stop him after he's elected. That's just bonkers.
At least one way we have a chance at stopping it.
But go ahead and tell us one more time about how Next Time you will work with us and this time we just need to work with you this one more time.
Heard that before.
I have an idea, how about you guys work with us this time around?
Your logic is to not try and stop a genocide at all. My logic is to vote against all genociders, it's not like im voting for Trump, I don't prefer him at all. Im voting down ballot for every candidtae that stands against the genocide. You're voting for guy thats funding it. One of us is trying to stop it and the other is justifying voting for funding it. That necessarily makes you a genocide apologist.