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[-] 01011@monero.town 22 points 7 months ago

Slavic Nazis. Hitler would be so confused.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 7 months ago

Would he? Vlasov and his scumbags existed

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not to mention volksdeutsches.

[-] 01011@monero.town 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Volkdeutsches were those deemed German by blood and culture. Something tells me that Ukrainian speaking Slavs don't fit that category.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago

Funnily enough they could, volksliste had 4 cathegories and actual German origins was not even necessarily needed. For example a enthusiastic nazi which lied a little could be easily signed to 1st or 2nd, someone married to a ethnic German to 3rd, and anyone really could be fit for a 4th as "racially valuable". Also don't forget that nazi racial policies were as inconsequential and malleable as needed.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

They were seen as useful idiots and often given insane and suicidal tasks because they were disposable.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Does it make them any less nazi?

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, as they did it mainly out of survival and wanting to “please their new masters” as the vast majority came from POW and concentration camps. Few were probably true ideological Nazies, they were just scum.

[-] 01011@monero.town 1 points 7 months ago

You really think that they read Mein Kampf and felt that Lebensraum was a good idea? Or felt elated at being described as subhuman?

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

You really think that they read Mein Kampf

Doubt it, but possible. Most likely they were told an "abridged version", so to speak.

felt that Lebensraum was a good idea

Sure. How do you think Russia got so big?

felt elated at being described as subhuman?

Just like the modern nazis in Ukraine, they likely thought it wasn't about them. Blamed it on the Jews and godless commies (who were either Jews or manipulated by Jews). Here you'll say it's just supposition, but here's the thing, I live in Russia, and I had the displeasure of knowing a number of Neonazis personally. Classmates and such, you know how it is with groups you can't leave. That was basically their shtick. And those historical collaborators that weren't actual, fervent nazis, they thought they were liberating ol Vaterland from the ebil judeobolsheviks. Just look at the amount of "former" tsarist officers and aristocrats that had gone on to collaborate with the nazis.

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

What about Pavelic?

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